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Columbia 02-20-2011 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 951243)
Yep, and alot more going on than a JV. If we were attempting to just sign a JV with them, we wouldn't need the resources of Goldman Sachs to help us out. I read an article a month or so ago that had the tone to it that Sir Richard was going to bow out of owning a controlling stake so that he could allow VA to compete with the BA/AA JV. Said that if VA doesn't do something they won't be able to compete with that JV and if that meant selling his airline, then he would do it.

Not quite sure about the GS involvement. I have a feeling it migh be nothing earth shattering. I have a few sources there-curious to find out more. I think the focus is on LHR as it relates to Star and OneWorld. I also believe there is some strategizing over what EY and EK have up their collective sleeves. I understand LH is facing an assault from all fronts.

PilotFrog 02-20-2011 05:38 PM

EasyJet Coats Airplanes With Ultra Thin Paint To Reduce Fuel Consumption | Inhabitat - Green Design Will Save the World

Nice paint. Wonder if it works for easyJet. 2% savings with better paint. Wonder if AA will start painting again.

gloopy 02-20-2011 06:08 PM

How much does that kind of paint job cost and how long does it last compared to conventional paint?

iaflyer 02-20-2011 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by unit monster (Post 951235)
Question: Is there an instance the gate agent is not supposed to assign first class seats to non-revs? I've seen this happen a few times, but only on domestic 777s.

It can happen on the 767-300ERs, for weight and balance. Something about the additional people in BizElite make the CG too far forward, so they are given coach seats. There was something about it on DLnet, but other than that, no, if there are seats, they should get seats up front, assuming revenue upgrades are taken care of first. PSUPs are above non-rev standbys too.

forgot to bid 02-20-2011 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 951113)
I've been saying this for years, and I think ACL has as well,....we're ALL gonna be Air France one day. Which, I suppose, means we can break out the berets and stop taking showers.

You mean, "Good evening ladies and gentleman from the flight deck on behalf of First Officer ACL65pilot and myself Captain Buzzpat, I'd like to welcome you aboard Skyteam by Delta Air Lines, today we're flying a Boeing 757..."

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/...789d066064.jpg

Followed by:

"Bonsoir mesdames et messieurs du poste de pilotage pour le compte du premier officier Frenchie et moi-même le capitaine de Grenouille, je vous souhaite la bienvenue à bord de Skyteam par Air France, aujourd'hui, nous sommes aux commandes d'un Boeing 777..."

http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/9ac5499/en...jpg?format=jpg

unit monster 02-20-2011 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 951338)
It can happen on the 767-300ERs, for weight and balance. Something about the additional people in BizElite make the CG too far forward, so they are given coach seats. There was something about it on DLnet, but other than that, no, if there are seats, they should get seats up front, assuming revenue upgrades are taken care of first. PSUPs are above non-rev standbys too.


Then I'm going to attribute the seat assignments to a 'holier-than-thou' gate agent. No reason to leave 25+ first class seats vacant, especially when folks are using S2s and have been waiting for a seat all day long.

acl65pilot 02-21-2011 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 951113)
I've been saying this for years, and I think ACL has as well,....we're ALL gonna be Air France one day. Which, I suppose, means we can break out the berets and stop taking showers.


Still going to be wearing a Double Breasted jacket and hat though....

acl65pilot 02-21-2011 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 951312)
If Branson is leaving then he smells an opportunity to sell at a good profit. I'd never trust that man in a negotiation.

No he realizes that he cannot compete effectively with the alliances and needs a dance partner. Do not forget that 49% minority stake some Asian airline has in VA. :rolleyes:

scambo1 02-21-2011 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by unit monster (Post 951371)
Then I'm going to attribute the seat assignments to a 'holier-than-thou' gate agent. No reason to leave 25+ first class seats vacant, especially when folks are using S2s and have been waiting for a seat all day long.

If it was a domestic 777, I can think of no reason not to assign the seats. I think a call/letter to the union and CP might be in order. I'd hope the Captain was not aware so many were left open with people at the gate.

tsquare 02-21-2011 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 951338)
It can happen on the 767-300ERs, for weight and balance. Something about the additional people in BizElite make the CG too far forward, so they are given coach seats..

I have never seen this on an -er or a 757... ever. This lieutenant will take this one for action and find out if this is possible, but I highly doubt that it is....


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