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03-02-2011, 08:01 AM
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OK, so I'm trying to figure out the impact on staffing relative to some baseline. Last summer, it sure didn't feel like we were overstaffed. I think we only had the original 16 MD-90's flying, or maybe another 1-3 from Hello. How many DC-9's did we have then?
03-02-2011, 08:02 AM
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ftb,
It's been about a minute, already. Where's the graph and picture?
It's been about a minute, already. Where's the graph and picture?
03-02-2011, 08:10 AM
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So it sounds like a small net increase in airframes.
39 md 90's - 36 dc-9 = 3 additional a/c
or am I missing something?
39 md 90's - 36 dc-9 = 3 additional a/c
or am I missing something?
03-02-2011, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
So it sounds like a small net increase in airframes.
39 md 90's - 36 dc-9 = 3 additional a/c
or am I missing something?
39 md 90's - 36 dc-9 = 3 additional a/c
or am I missing something?
03-02-2011, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Where do you get the 36 from? I looked at archived Upront and PlaneTalk, but neither go past November 2009.
I have no idea how accurate it is
03-02-2011, 08:17 AM
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I completely agree that public sector (i.e. government) unions are different animal compared to private sector unions and it's time for them to feel the wrath of fiscal responsibility.
...But here's the thing. The average American doesn't understand the difference and makes no distinction between the two. To them, a union is a union. Frankly, I think the same can be said about your average new Teaparty congressman. If the collective bargaining rights of public sector unions start falling like dominoes in numerous states, I can guarantee you that the next time a major airline has a protracted contract squabble and some newspaper writes a silly story about how Grandma's summer plane trip to visit the grandkids is in jeopardy, there will be a public groundswell demanding to know why pilots have collective bargaining rights. With the right folks in power after the 2012 elections and numerous precedents set in multiple states, they'd take away those rights in a heartbeat.....and the Average Joe Public would cheer mightily.
...as for the MD90s, we still haven't seen a new one hit the line since last summer. I'll start cheering when I see ship #9220 actually flying
...But here's the thing. The average American doesn't understand the difference and makes no distinction between the two. To them, a union is a union. Frankly, I think the same can be said about your average new Teaparty congressman. If the collective bargaining rights of public sector unions start falling like dominoes in numerous states, I can guarantee you that the next time a major airline has a protracted contract squabble and some newspaper writes a silly story about how Grandma's summer plane trip to visit the grandkids is in jeopardy, there will be a public groundswell demanding to know why pilots have collective bargaining rights. With the right folks in power after the 2012 elections and numerous precedents set in multiple states, they'd take away those rights in a heartbeat.....and the Average Joe Public would cheer mightily.
...as for the MD90s, we still haven't seen a new one hit the line since last summer. I'll start cheering when I see ship #9220 actually flying
03-02-2011, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Roosevelt openly opposed bargaining rights for government unions.
"The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service," Roosevelt wrote in 1937 to the National Federation of Federal Employees. Yes, public workers may demand fair treatment, wrote Roosevelt. But, he wrote, "I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place" in the public sector. "A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government."
RealClearPolitics - FDR's Ghost Is Smiling on Wisconsin's Governor
Why not have a union as a member of the military? Same reason as stated above.
Private unions create profits and have competition. Public unions are monopolies that raise taxes.
"The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service," Roosevelt wrote in 1937 to the National Federation of Federal Employees. Yes, public workers may demand fair treatment, wrote Roosevelt. But, he wrote, "I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place" in the public sector. "A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government."
RealClearPolitics - FDR's Ghost Is Smiling on Wisconsin's Governor
Why not have a union as a member of the military? Same reason as stated above.
Private unions create profits and have competition. Public unions are monopolies that raise taxes.
While I appreciate you quoting FDR, you have to realized that you are quoting a past President who probably looked at the federal government as being more powerful than any President ever has. He, and his successor (Truman), were having no part of any opposition from labor unions, to private businesses, to Supreme Court Justices. If you got in their way, they would go through you our around you.
To borrow your FDR quote again....
".....[ BLANK ] manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government."
....I'd like to point out that Roosevelt and Truman used that as an excuse to do everything they did. You can fill in the blank with, "A Supreme Court that doesn't defer to me," or "Private businesses that won't negotiate with their employees," and finish each quote off with, "So, I should be able to pack the court in my favor" (A switch in time saves Nine.), or "So, I should be able to orchestrate a federal takeover of any private business under the guise of National Security." (Youngstown).
In essence, FDR was against public sector, federal unions because he didn't want anything getting in the way of his federal government. Unless you are posting the quote for the same reason, you are using it out of context.
03-02-2011, 08:19 AM
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OK hold on a minute.....there is definitely no increase in frames from the Dc9/ MD 90 swap.....unless you only look at the -50's to the md90's....but if you start at the date of merger....we have parked many -30's and -40's....more than the 90's we are getting
03-02-2011, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Phuz
Because the teacher's "customers" have no choice.
How so?
03-02-2011, 08:22 AM
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Also as we go forward lets not forget the DC9 pay rate was also for the 78 seat DC-9-10........never ever forget
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