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Ferd and Buzz are the brothers who always fought during their childhood. Then, Ferd became a fighter pilot while Buzz was relegated to hauling rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong (which, by the way, is an incredibly great gig, but, shhhh, don't tell Ferd). Like brothers do, Buzz, the elder but not the smarter, is apologizing to brother Ferd through diplomatic channels. Hopefully, Ferd, being the statesman that he is, will accept the olive branch and allow Buzz to once again gain access to the insane beer and brothels of Ferd's present reality.
The moral of the story is this: in the end, its not worth a flying conudle what's happening in Wisconsin (although it is the home of Buzz's beloved Packers and that, in and of itself, is worth mentioning). What really matters is how warring brothers from different tribes adopt the same head dress and woolen garments and, concurrently, are willing to undergo "best practices" to launch aluminum cylinders into the spaces shouting "widget" as they go. THAT's what matters most. Especially, when "scheduling calls."
Alas, but what are we? We are Devo. Oopps, no, that's a different line. Sorry. Ferd, my brother in aluminum, I apologize. I was trying to put NERD in the cross hairs and I missed...No, that's not right either. NERD, I apologize to you as well.
Seriously, I was simply trying to make a point about unions, public v. private. I'm sorry guys. Sometimes my inner Ann Coulter festers like a bed bug at the Roosevelt. Apologies are also in order to New...but you still owe me a beer.
Go Pack!
Humbly,
Buzz
More Delta airline chitchat please!
This thread is Google's answer for 98% of every airline question I ask it, but it's getting so I have to wade through 20 posts of political discussion for each post on Delta! Ok, I admit, I read most of them, but find myself vigorously for both sides and still wondering what daily life is like out there on the line.
Interesting posts on DC-9 numbers vs. MD-90s, good charts as always, but what's it all mean for the next AE?
Crew Resources confirmed receipt of my long MLOA return package today, and told me "We're going over your package" (which didn't sound healthy), and that the mil Liason would review it (JM, who I've talked to before and felt solid about), and they they'd contact me with a class date. Until I hear back from them that my 4 year MLOA return after 5.5 years furlough is "approved", I'm pretty nervous... Anyone ever heard of a MLOA return getting hassled/rejected? I'm solid reserve orders for the whole time except 2 weeks leave/vacation a year and a few weekends without duty here and there. Grrr... the waiting sux!
This thread is Google's answer for 98% of every airline question I ask it, but it's getting so I have to wade through 20 posts of political discussion for each post on Delta! Ok, I admit, I read most of them, but find myself vigorously for both sides and still wondering what daily life is like out there on the line.Interesting posts on DC-9 numbers vs. MD-90s, good charts as always, but what's it all mean for the next AE?
Crew Resources confirmed receipt of my long MLOA return package today, and told me "We're going over your package" (which didn't sound healthy), and that the mil Liason would review it (JM, who I've talked to before and felt solid about), and they they'd contact me with a class date. Until I hear back from them that my 4 year MLOA return after 5.5 years furlough is "approved", I'm pretty nervous... Anyone ever heard of a MLOA return getting hassled/rejected? I'm solid reserve orders for the whole time except 2 weeks leave/vacation a year and a few weekends without duty here and there. Grrr... the waiting sux!
OK, point taken. Why didn't you quote Ferd's post about the governor of Wisconsin being a "thug?"
And, as long as we're being honest and all, when have I resorted to "name calling?" I'm receptive and I'm trainable, or at least Delta thinks I am. So, school me New.
I've got lots of arguments. Seems to me that some of the guys trying to defend the indefensible are the ones calling out the names. I love my fellow bros, most definitely you and Ferd. I'm attempting to take on this discussion above the fray. Seems I keep getting pulled back into it. Can you show me where I've called anybody names or run out of cogent arguments? If so, I'll gladly apologize.
And, as long as we're being honest and all, when have I resorted to "name calling?" I'm receptive and I'm trainable, or at least Delta thinks I am. So, school me New.
I've got lots of arguments. Seems to me that some of the guys trying to defend the indefensible are the ones calling out the names. I love my fellow bros, most definitely you and Ferd. I'm attempting to take on this discussion above the fray. Seems I keep getting pulled back into it. Can you show me where I've called anybody names or run out of cogent arguments? If so, I'll gladly apologize.
There are a couple of legal reasons why I didn't quote Ferd's calling the Governor a thug, but for legal reasons, I will save that for a PM tomorrow.
As far as the name-calling, it seems as though you really push some buttons when you call people "Ed Shultz watchers," or "Rachael Maddow kind of guys." Personally, it doesn't bother me at all. I watch all the news stations and love seeing how different sides present the same story. But, you have to admit that who someone watches on cable news is not really a valid argument to anything of substance. Furthermore, calling members of a teachers union, "thugs" is probably not well received by anyone who intimately knows a teacher, or two.
To be honest with you, what probably brought Ferd out of the woodworks was all the people who said that teachers are overpaid. I don't think you did that. But, for the record, people who know teachers, know they are not overpaid. After 40 plus years with the Chicago Public Schools, 3 masters degrees and a doctorate degree, my mother retired making less than $70,000 per year (that's with teaching in the summer). For what she did, she deserved a lot more than that. My father probably made about the same, if not less.
I saw your arguments, and responded to your initial ones pages and pages ago. I think we can keep this discussion above the fray. But, to do so we have to realize that; 1.) the opposition is not an enemy, 2.) the opposition is not necessarily an idiot, and 3.) We are all just people who have different views.
From a perspective adjustment standpoint, I think the most beneficial trip I had in life was my first 12 day trip on the DC-10. I DH'ed to Narita without the Captain and the second officer for some reason, so I didn't meet them until we got on the bus. After the wx planning and preflight, off we went, on our way to Singapore. I could still see Tokyo out of my window when the captain leaned over towards me and said, "So, who you got in the election?" I mean I think we had barely gotten out of 14,000 feet and all I could do is think of how long this 12 day trip was about to become.
I answered his question, and I promise you, anytime we were inflight and above FLwhateverthtransitionlevelwas, we talked politics and presidential elections, for the entire 12 day's. It was the most fun I've had while flying and it only took me a few hours or so to realize that politics didn't have to be so personal. Now,when I see that captain, we cheese it up and are the best of friends. I hope you get a trip like that at least once in your career.
In my opinion, some of you guys let your politics shape your entire world and its distorts your perspective. "Your side" isn't wrong about everything and "my side" isn't right about everything.
If we start from that viewpoint, I'm sure keeping the discussion above the fray will be easy.
So, no unions for public sector employees, huh? Why not?
Last edited by newKnow; 03-02-2011 at 10:42 PM.
Crew Resources confirmed receipt of my long MLOA return package today, and told me "We're going over your package" (which didn't sound healthy), and that the mil Liason would review it (JM, who I've talked to before and felt solid about), and they they'd contact me with a class date. Until I hear back from them that my 4 year MLOA return after 5.5 years furlough is "approved", I'm pretty nervous... Anyone ever heard of a MLOA return getting hassled/rejected? I'm solid reserve orders for the whole time except 2 weeks leave/vacation a year and a few weekends without duty here and there. Grrr... the waiting sux!
As far as AE rumors go, I've figured out that whenever you hear someone say the next bid is going to be the MOAB, that means the big bid will be the one after the next. In other words, the MOAB is always two bids away.
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More Delta airline chitchat please!
This thread is Google's answer for 98% of every airline question I ask it, but it's getting so I have to wade through 20 posts of political discussion for each post on Delta! Ok, I admit, I read most of them, but find myself vigorously for both sides and still wondering what daily life is like out there on the line.
Interesting posts on DC-9 numbers vs. MD-90s, good charts as always, but what's it all mean for the next AE?
Crew Resources confirmed receipt of my long MLOA return package today, and told me "We're going over your package" (which didn't sound healthy), and that the mil Liason would review it (JM, who I've talked to before and felt solid about), and they they'd contact me with a class date. Until I hear back from them that my 4 year MLOA return after 5.5 years furlough is "approved", I'm pretty nervous... Anyone ever heard of a MLOA return getting hassled/rejected? I'm solid reserve orders for the whole time except 2 weeks leave/vacation a year and a few weekends without duty here and there. Grrr... the waiting sux!
This thread is Google's answer for 98% of every airline question I ask it, but it's getting so I have to wade through 20 posts of political discussion for each post on Delta! Ok, I admit, I read most of them, but find myself vigorously for both sides and still wondering what daily life is like out there on the line.Interesting posts on DC-9 numbers vs. MD-90s, good charts as always, but what's it all mean for the next AE?
Crew Resources confirmed receipt of my long MLOA return package today, and told me "We're going over your package" (which didn't sound healthy), and that the mil Liason would review it (JM, who I've talked to before and felt solid about), and they they'd contact me with a class date. Until I hear back from them that my 4 year MLOA return after 5.5 years furlough is "approved", I'm pretty nervous... Anyone ever heard of a MLOA return getting hassled/rejected? I'm solid reserve orders for the whole time except 2 weeks leave/vacation a year and a few weekends without duty here and there. Grrr... the waiting sux!
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No apology necessary Buzz. Here in WI, we are fed up, but frankly the biggest deficit in our state isn't in Madison, it's in the goodwill of Packer fans towards a certain #4 who laid mostly eggs in his last four seasons and acted like a diva. In A-Rod We Trust!
Nothing to see here.
Ferd and Buzz are the brothers who always fought during their childhood. Then, Ferd became a fighter pilot while Buzz was relegated to hauling rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong (which, by the way, is an incredibly great gig, but, shhhh, don't tell Ferd). Like brothers do, Buzz, the elder but not the smarter, is apologizing to brother Ferd through diplomatic channels. Hopefully, Ferd, being the statesman that he is, will accept the olive branch and allow Buzz to once again gain access to the insane beer and brothels of Ferd's present reality.
The moral of the story is this: in the end, its not worth a flying conudle what's happening in Wisconsin (although it is the home of Buzz's beloved Packers and that, in and of itself, is worth mentioning). What really matters is how warring brothers from different tribes adopt the same head dress and woolen garments and, concurrently, are willing to undergo "best practices" to launch aluminum cylinders into the spaces shouting "widget" as they go. THAT's what matters most. Especially, when "scheduling calls."
Alas, but what are we? We are Devo. Oopps, no, that's a different line. Sorry. Ferd, my brother in aluminum, I apologize. I was trying to put NERD in the cross hairs and I missed...No, that's not right either. NERD, I apologize to you as well.
Seriously, I was simply trying to make a point about unions, public v. private. I'm sorry guys. Sometimes my inner Ann Coulter festers like a bed bug at the Roosevelt. Apologies are also in order to New...but you still owe me a beer.
Go Pack!
Humbly,
Buzz
Ferd and Buzz are the brothers who always fought during their childhood. Then, Ferd became a fighter pilot while Buzz was relegated to hauling rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong (which, by the way, is an incredibly great gig, but, shhhh, don't tell Ferd). Like brothers do, Buzz, the elder but not the smarter, is apologizing to brother Ferd through diplomatic channels. Hopefully, Ferd, being the statesman that he is, will accept the olive branch and allow Buzz to once again gain access to the insane beer and brothels of Ferd's present reality.
The moral of the story is this: in the end, its not worth a flying conudle what's happening in Wisconsin (although it is the home of Buzz's beloved Packers and that, in and of itself, is worth mentioning). What really matters is how warring brothers from different tribes adopt the same head dress and woolen garments and, concurrently, are willing to undergo "best practices" to launch aluminum cylinders into the spaces shouting "widget" as they go. THAT's what matters most. Especially, when "scheduling calls."
Alas, but what are we? We are Devo. Oopps, no, that's a different line. Sorry. Ferd, my brother in aluminum, I apologize. I was trying to put NERD in the cross hairs and I missed...No, that's not right either. NERD, I apologize to you as well.
Seriously, I was simply trying to make a point about unions, public v. private. I'm sorry guys. Sometimes my inner Ann Coulter festers like a bed bug at the Roosevelt. Apologies are also in order to New...but you still owe me a beer.
Go Pack!
Humbly,
Buzz
Last edited by hiredgun; 03-03-2011 at 04:50 AM.
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Waiting for the political debate to end.
Waiting for the political debate to end.
Southwest ranks #4 in Fortune's
World's Most Admired Companies
Where the H*** is DELTA????????????
NOW, THERE IS SOMETHING TO FRET ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
World's Most Admired Companies
Where the H*** is DELTA????????????

NOW, THERE IS SOMETHING TO FRET ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Southwest ranks #4 in Fortune's
World's Most Admired Companies
Where the H*** is DELTA????????????
NOW, THERE IS SOMETHING TO FRET ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
World's Most Admired Companies
Where the H*** is DELTA????????????

NOW, THERE IS SOMETHING TO FRET ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Southwest ranks #4 in Fortune's
World's Most Admired Companies
Where the H*** is DELTA????????????
NOW, THERE IS SOMETHING TO FRET ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
World's Most Admired Companies
Where the H*** is DELTA????????????

NOW, THERE IS SOMETHING TO FRET ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...apparently # 1 among airlines

World's Most Admired Companies 2011: Industries - Airlines - FORTUNE on CNNMoney.com
Explaint to me how Southwest is #4 on the "Big List", but only #3 among airlines?
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