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Carl Spakler 04-03-2011 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Enemyofthestate (Post 974919)
Funny, except likely one of the many full time flight pay loss volunteers is spending your dues dollars to produce it. Wonder where Spakler's IP pings from? Herndon or close to Virginia Ave?

Here's a fair question: what percentage of DAL pilots make over $250K/year?

Now what percentage of DAL ALPA volunteers make over $250K/yr?

Are ALPA volunteer tax returns or compensation public domain and obtainable under the FOIA and Labor Department reporting rules?

Ballpark figures on my hand say that you'd need to be a 744/777 A earning more than 96 hours a month. Doesn't look like the cut and paste policy supports that and I don't know that many DALPA reps can hold 744/777 A. So. Small list. If any...

Funny, yes. But, is it accurate?

gloopy 04-03-2011 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 975286)
Trust me, I never said it did. That stuff should be flown here. Period. I want all branded flying flown by the Delta Pilots, and will constantly work to that end.

As for the second part, We will get the seats that were part of the flow agreement. If anyone is stupid enough not to flow, then that number gets reduced to those that have flowed.

Those that have flowed, or those that are eligibile to flow (not including the ones who chose to stay and forfit the flow)?

Because prior to 2010, zero had flowed. Does that mean had furloughs occured at that time, zero could have flowed back? That doesn't sound right. If 405 could have flowed back in 2008, 2009 and 2010, then why couldn't 405 flow back now? And if CPS adds another 200 or 300+ pilots who can not flow up, and therefore DL pilots can not flow down, do the 405 that can flow still go to the top?

buzzpat 04-03-2011 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 975356)
I propose a fence around alfaromeo and "super premium" status for Carl! :D

Actually, just for ****s and grins, let's negotiate that Alfa and Carl are now new hires....everybody else is fenced. Now, THAT'S some fun and games!:D

buzzpat 04-03-2011 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 975363)
Now, there's a fine looking machine..... :D

No, no its not at all. I flew the -6 for awhile. Trading jets for DeHavilland is like trading Anna for Rosie.:eek:

captainv 04-04-2011 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 975326)
Assuming what you say above is 100% true then it seems to make even less sense that the COMAIR MEC did not go out of their way to help the furloughed DAL Pilots.
Scoop

A lot of us felt that way. But JC and the RJDC pretty much poisoned that well. It'd be great if the entire pilot group wasn't painted with that brush, but I understand why it is. As for me, I was in my 3rd week of indoc when JC wrote his letter (Boomer is of similar vintage, I believe). And so, I send out resumes with 8.5 years at CMR, a whopping 300 RJ PIC, and watch 5-year RJ captains at other DCI regionals move on. It is what it is.

scambo1 04-04-2011 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by captainv (Post 975410)
A lot of us felt that way. But JC and the RJDC pretty much poisoned that well. It'd be great if the entire pilot group wasn't painted with that brush, but I understand why it is. As for me, I was in my 3rd week of indoc when JC wrote his letter (Boomer is of similar vintage, I believe). And so, I send out resumes with 8.5 years at CMR, a whopping 300 RJ PIC, and watch 5-year RJ captains at other DCI regionals move on. It is what it is.

Agreed, my understanding is that the JC letter was sent out without any briefing or input from the line pilots. However, it also was not done in a vacume. The RJDC had support from somewhere and it wasnt Icahn or Lorenzo, it was from pilots.

It is a convoluted mess to be sure. The interesting thing tho is that Comair pilots have been flying DAL pax for many years. DAL has access to all of the checkride data, sick leave data and personnel files. My hope is that it is on that sort of rational basis that DAL extends interviews and job offers to Comair pilots and not just using the broad brush Comair poisoned well approach. But hey, I'm just one guy.

Pineapple Guy 04-04-2011 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by captainv (Post 975410)
A lot of us felt that way. But JC and the RJDC pretty much poisoned that well. It'd be great if the entire pilot group wasn't painted with that brush, but I understand why it is. As for me, I was in my 3rd week of indoc when JC wrote his letter (Boomer is of similar vintage, I believe). And so, I send out resumes with 8.5 years at CMR, a whopping 300 RJ PIC, and watch 5-year RJ captains at other DCI regionals move on. It is what it is.

Guys in your position were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that is very unfortunate. You are not to blame, yet you are affected by that.

But there were PLENTY of line CMR guys who could/should have come out and recalled JC and his boys when that letter came out. It didn't happen; and that's why ALL are paying the price.

slowplay 04-04-2011 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 975342)

But again, no love lost for that airline and whoever participated, supported or quietly supported the Delta furlough events.

I get why one of the 1310 who was furloughed still hates CMR. Were you even on the property? If not, why arre you carrying a torch for the past when we have a future yet to be written in front of us?

Oh, ASA and Bob Arnold get a lot of credit for hiring DAL furloughed pilots. Just how many did they hire and how many of those were former ASA? Then compare that number to the ASA/CMR hires at Delta 2006-2008.

Justdoinmyjob 04-04-2011 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 975436)
I get why one of the 1310 who was furloughed still hates CMR. Were you even on the property? If not, why arre you carrying a torch for the past when we have a future yet to be written in front of us?

Oh, ASA and Bob Arnold get a lot of credit for hiring DAL furloughed pilots. Just how many did they hire and how many of those were former ASA? Then compare that number to the ASA/CMR hires at Delta 2006-2008.


As one of the TK+XXX number holders, I pretty much have no love loss for JC, Ford, Cooksey, and the RJDC supporters, yet I do support the hiring of guys like Boomer and CaptainV. The sins of the fathers should not be the sins of the sons, so to speak.

Yet, ASA wouldn't hire me back when I was furloughed. Apparently, I stepped on too many toes on the way out the door the first time!

acl65pilot 04-04-2011 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 975448)
As one of the TK+XXX number holders, I pretty much have no love loss for JC, Ford, Cooksey, and the RJDC supporters, yet I do support the hiring of guys like Boomer and CaptainV. The sins of the fathers should not be the sins of the sons, so to speak.

Yet, ASA wouldn't hire me back when I was furloughed. Apparently, I stepped on too many toes on the way out the door the first time!

I recall that. I know of a few pilots ASA would not hire back. Crazy.

Slow, I beleive that ASA hired about 35 total DAL furloughees. I could be off on that and including UAL guys as well. FWIW, there are still AMR furloughees still there.


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