Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Question for fleets that have been using ship sets for a while. Now that we don't have our own FOM, VOL 1 etc, how are your fleets getting the changes out to crews? When we had our own I would read over the changes as I did the revision. To me it seems we are going to be missing alot of changes as the librarians will be doing the changes. Don't get me wrong it is great not doing Jepp. revisions and lugging the bag, but dare I say that we should have kept our own Vol 1, and Fom.

Also in the front of the Vol 1 and FOM should be a list of the changes. I read through that and see what's what. Passes the time when there's nothing to do.

buzzpat

04-09-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NERD (Post 977878)

I'm still getting mine for the Vol I and keeping it current at home. The rest of the stuff? Nahhh.

BigGuns

04-09-2011 03:35 PM

Hey Airbus guys.... Why when I travel on a UAL A319/320 that is on a SE taxi I don't hear the hydraulic pumps, but I do hear them on DAL A319/320s? What is the difference?

UncleSam

04-09-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 977937)

I'm still getting mine for the Vol I and keeping it current at home. The rest of the stuff? Nahhh.

If you just download the pdf's, you don't need to worry about the revisions but you do have to get used to using your laptop to read them. I've been doing that for a couple of years. Be glad to get rid of all the hardcopy.:)

whaledriver1

04-09-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 978013)

Hey Airbus guys.... Why when I travel on a UAL A319/320 that is on a SE taxi I don't hear the hydraulic pumps, but I do hear them on DAL A319/320s? What is the difference?

Not sure, not an A320 guy... perhaps UAL shut down the wrong engine or forgot to turn on an ELEC HYD pump or something? Maybe a real Airbus pilot will tell us the correct answer.

TenYearsGone

04-09-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 978013)

Hey Airbus guys.... Why when I travel on a UAL A319/320 that is on a SE taxi I don't hear the hydraulic pumps, but I do hear them on DAL A319/320s? What is the difference?

You should either hear a "dog barking" or a loud whining noise.

Dog Barking is the PTU (Delta taxis with the #1 motor)
Whining noise is the yellow elec. pump. THe yellow elec pump is turned on so that the dog stops barking.

Either noise is annoying.

Ten

Elvis90

04-09-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 978013)

Hey Airbus guys.... Why when I travel on a UAL A319/320 that is on a SE taxi I don't hear the hydraulic pumps, but I do hear them on DAL A319/320s? What is the difference?

What you hear is the hydraulic Power Transfer Unit (PTU). We turn on the yellow hydraulic system electric pump during Single Engine taxi to prevent the PTU from running & making that loud noise. Everyone thinks it's a malfunction when they hear the PTU, but no, Airbus actually designed it that way. Some Captains even include it as part of their PA announcement. The electric pump doesn't make a noise.

Nosmo King

04-09-2011 06:59 PM

Does scheduling usually give you the "inadequate reserve coverage" excuse on PCS swap with the pot requests if you are trying to drop a spillover rotation on the 20th of the month prior to the beginning of a flying month?

<Insert rambling run-on answer here, thanks>

iaflyer

04-09-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 978070)

Yes, because they don't know the reserve coverage for May yet. You'll be able to drop that trip on... wait for it.... the 20th at 0700.

newKnow

04-09-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 977299)

I'm with you.

BTW, you and Satch. I watched the John Adams series with my wife. Thanks for the recommendation and thanks to that show I've read A LOT more to make sure I learned it right.

But thinking about LEC members and so forth going into ALPA reminds me of that scene where Adams prior to the revolution has just represented the soldiers in the Boston Massacre and now the king wants him to be AG, I believe. But obviously, he's known by then as a defender of colonial rights and liberties at the time but boy, the king... a job... you've been chosen... welcome in... want to stay?... want more?

I'm sorry to say that's alluring no matter who you are and that creates entrenchment and barriers to change. Something that I'm sure, again, no union would ever give up unless it was forced from the top down and nobody is going to reach the top who would ever pull that. It'd be like a King giving up the monarchy to a democracy without being forced. Doesn't happen... unless you're something very special.

Dude. I know you saw Gladiator. That's who we need.