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Scoop 04-14-2011 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 980456)
The article was NOT written by ALPA. It was written by "ALPA Watch." Regardless of what you think of ALPA Watch (I don't really know much about them)... I think the article stands up very well on its own merit and is very much worth reading. In fact, I think this article is so good that it is essential reading for all of us. Like I said before, I don't agree with every, single statement 100%... but I think the vast majority of it is spot on.

You would never get DALPA to write something like that. At least not with the current makeup of representatives.


88,

I agree the article is well written and I like what they say. The problem I have with it is not the article but ALPA actions. ALPA apparently takes actions contrary to what the article suggests.

Scoop

dragon 04-14-2011 03:47 PM

All of the May CA bid awards are out on the Crew Resources page. Not a single FO award - it's a conspiracy!!

acl65pilot 04-14-2011 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 980547)
All of the May CA bid awards are out on the Crew Resources page. Not a single FO award - it's a conspiracy!!


Um yep, we are more picky. We all know we need to bid for Mother's Day off whereas Captain's have "been there done that." :D

satchip 04-14-2011 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 980591)
Um yep, we are more picky. We all know we need to bid for Mother's Day off whereas Captain's have "been there done that." :D

Mother's Day is next month?!? DOH!:eek:

Nosmo King 04-14-2011 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 980591)
Um yep, we are more picky. We all know we need to bid for Mother's Day off whereas Captain's have "been there done that." :D

Its because FOs are allowed to use the AVOID EMPLOYEE ID function... :rolleyes:

forgot to bid 04-14-2011 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 980602)
Its because FOs are allowed to use the AVOID EMPLOYEE ID function... :rolleyes:

That's funny.

FlyZ 04-14-2011 06:40 PM

This is unbelievably frustrating for a new guy. Pretty much forced to join ALPA (you don't have to join but you still have to pay dues). But since then I have yet to see them stand up for us on anything. I have yet to see one piece of communication written strongly enough to reassure the membership that our best interests are in mind. I get a glossy publication every month (waste of dues money) full of pictures of bigwigs shaking hands. The only information contained therein is a list of things National is doing.

But if so much progress is being made, why haven't things gotten any better? During my admittedly short time here, it has felt a lot more like socialism than a representative democracy. "Delta pilots, ALPA will argue on your behalf when it's in the best interest of ALL ALPA pilots". Which I'm starting to think means never. Where do I get a DPA card?

No, really, where do I get one?

Carl Spackler 04-14-2011 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 980622)
This is unbelievably frustrating for a new guy. Pretty much forced to join ALPA (you don't have to join but you still have to pay dues). But since then I have yet to see them stand up for us on anything. I have yet to see one piece of communication written strongly enough to reassure the membership that our best interests are in mind. I get a glossy publication every month (waste of dues money) full of pictures of bigwigs shaking hands. The only information contained therein is a list of things National is doing.

But if so much progress is being made, why haven't things gotten any better? During my admittedly short time here, it has felt a lot more like socialism than a representative democracy. "Delta pilots, ALPA will argue on your behalf when it's in the best interest of ALL ALPA pilots". Which I'm starting to think means never. Where do I get a DPA card?

No, really, where do I get one?

Delta Pilots Association - Home

I'm sorry for you coming to this realization. Many of us have come to the same conclusion you have. But it's the new younger people that will be able to make Delta Air Lines a better place by your paying attention to the lack of substance from ALPA. It makes me feel like there's hope for the future.

Carl

Jesse 04-14-2011 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 980622)
This is unbelievably frustrating for a new guy. Pretty much forced to join ALPA (you don't have to join but you still have to pay dues). But since then I have yet to see them stand up for us on anything. I have yet to see one piece of communication written strongly enough to reassure the membership that our best interests are in mind. I get a glossy publication every month (waste of dues money) full of pictures of bigwigs shaking hands. The only information contained therein is a list of things National is doing.

But if so much progress is being made, why haven't things gotten any better? During my admittedly short time here, it has felt a lot more like socialism than a representative democracy. "Delta pilots, ALPA will argue on your behalf when it's in the best interest of ALL ALPA pilots". Which I'm starting to think means never. Where do I get a DPA card?

No, really, where do I get one?

I tried voicing dissatisfaction on the DAL ALPA forum with how 88/90 pay is the only airframe to have a pay difference. In so many words what I was told was you have to give to get. You mean giving MD-90s to ATL and more revenue generating seats on the MD? For that we get nothing. A captain let me in on a secret: there aren't senior Capts or F/Os on the maddog...what do you expect?

Jesse 04-14-2011 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by UncleSam (Post 980500)
NO LAYOVER MEALS WITHHOLDING = per diem for turn arounds with no layover. You have to pay taxes on it.

Thanks...was pretty much ungoogleable. Maybe that search will be met with success now. :D


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