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dragon 04-18-2011 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Adolphus Coors (Post 982072)
Does anyone know where I can find our commuting policy?

Thanks

From the flight ops home page select the "more" button under "Flight Operations News"(center on the panel). The memo is dated Feb 18, 2011. Hope this helps.

acl65pilot 04-18-2011 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 982135)
Ok. Here's a surprise. I don't understand something about the contract -- again.

For the first time since we have switched over to the new rules, I am senior enough to pick up some good trips in open time.

For next month, I'm thinking about picking up a white slip trip that will take me well over my original credit time. (75 now, new trip will take me over 100)

I remember that there is a restriction on your block hour limit and have researched it. From my calendar and research I don't think I go over the block hour limit. (Lot's of DH's on this trip)

But, on the bottom of my calendar is also says MAX P/UP 12 hours. So, I research this and come across this little tidbit for white slips....

"Your projected credit may not exceed the ALV + 15 hours for your position."

Which means I can't pick up the trip without dropping something else that keeps me below 88 hours.


So, here are my questions:

Is this right? I can't pick up this trip without dropping something else?

If so, how is it I was hearing stories about people getting 100 and 150+ hours of credit last year? What did they do. What can I do?

Thanks in advance for any help or clarification. :o

Yes, this is correct. Max WS pickup is ALV+215. This holds true for Regular or Reserve pilots.

Now what guys do, do is Green Slip vay above ALV. What this restriction does, is it limits guys from being their own worst enemies and picking up a ton of time. It means that if the company wants to thin staff a jet, they will be able to cover all of the flying, but though the double time green slip process, and not the straight pay process. It gives economic incentive to correctly staff each seat.

Herkflyr 04-18-2011 11:58 AM

You would probably get a quicker answer on the DALPA forum. That said...

The "pickup limit" ONLY applies to white slips. So if your pickup limit is 12 hours, you can only white slip a trip worth 12 hours or less, end of story.

You may however pickup a Pilot to Pilot Swapboard "pickup" (same word, but completely different animal than the WS pickup limit) without regard to the WS pickup limit.

You may also Swap with the Pot to FAR limits.

And that is how guys get the high time months you were referring to.

Carl Spackler 04-18-2011 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 982129)
Money making idea- pay for valet baggage on mainline aircraft.

I love valet baggage on DCI, I think we should do it on mainline. That way for $5 you can drop your bag off when you get on and walk off and have it waiting for you instead of trying to find a place in the overhead or losing it forever or for a longer time than you'd like to that nexus "we'll put it below for you."

That's it. That's all I got.

That's plenty! I think it's a great idea.

Carl

acl65pilot 04-18-2011 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 982129)
Money making idea- pay for valet baggage on mainline aircraft.

I love valet baggage on DCI, I think we should do it on mainline. That way for $5 you can drop your bag off when you get on and walk off and have it waiting for you instead of trying to find a place in the overhead or losing it forever or for a longer time than you'd like to that nexus "we'll put it below for you."

That's it. That's all I got.

Only issue with that is the risk of a discrimination law suit. What if someone would feel that boarding priority determined if you needed to pay for this service, versus getting overhead bin space......
You could try to argue that if would be forwarded free of charge but not delivered to the jet way, but, as you know, it could still be seen as discriminatory.

Bucking Bar 04-18-2011 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 982148)
That's plenty! I think it's a great idea.

Carl

The unfortunate truth is that it has been sort of thought about and the passengers are not going to like the answer.

My understanding based on conversations between flight attendants and gate agents is (subject to revision) that the remaining bags which do not find a home in the cabin will be checked at the gate, subject to Delta's excess baggage fees. The mobile credit card readers (or something similar) will be employed to collect the requisite fees.

Fair enough I guess. But, there seems to be NO policing of folks with several large bags getting on board early in the line and shoving their crap above aisle 11 as they meander back to their seat at row 40.

If we are going to enforce the policy and collect revenue, I think it is important to let passengers see that we are enforcing it fairly and not just as punishment to those who are already stressed by a tight connection which puts them at the back of the boarding line.

That should include us. I don't know why so many crew members are traveling with a wardrobe that would equip a member of the British Royal Family. We had ONE flight attendant completely fill the forward coat closet on a trip where she simply turned with the jet. When I asked, she explained she was a commuter. So, to get this straight, she had three bags, a very large purse & food which went with her on at least four Delta flights which IMHO do belong to our revenue passengers.

Adolphus Coors 04-18-2011 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 982141)
From the flight ops home page select the "more" button under "Flight Operations News"(center on the panel). The memo is dated Feb 18, 2011. Hope this helps.

Thanks Dragon! :)

acl65pilot 04-18-2011 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 982158)
The unfortunate truth is that it has been sort of thought about and the passengers are not going to like the answer.

My understanding based on conversations between flight attendants and gate agents is (subject to revision) that the remaining bags which do not find a home in the cabin will be checked at the gate, subject to Delta's excess baggage fees. The mobile credit card readers (or something similar) will be employed to collect the requisite fees.

Fair enough I guess. But, there seems to be NO policing of the ladies with five bags getting on board early in the line and shoving their crap above aisle 11 as they meander back to their seat at row 40.

If we are going to enforce the policy and collect revenue, I think it is important to let passengers see that we are enforcing it fairly and not just as punishment to those who are already stressed by a tight connection which puts them at the back of the boarding line.

That should include us. I don't know why so many crew members are traveling with a wardrobe that would equip a member of the British Royal Family. We had ONE flight attendant completely fill the forward coat closet on a trip where she simply turned with the jet. When I asked, she explained she was a commuter. So, to get this straight, she had three bags, a very large purse & food which went with her on at least four Delta flights which IMHO do belong to our revenue passengers. ...Don't get me started on the bottles of wine.

It annoys me when our airline is struggling to pull a profit that some people treat this place like a liquor store after Hurricane Katrina hit town.

I had heard they were going to start that last summer, but never saw the collecting the fees with the on board M2's like they had described.

Ferd149 04-18-2011 12:44 PM

Anyone jumpseating on American these days? I thought I read somewhere that we now list on the AA website (vs the non-rev phone #) as a sort of ZED listing but I can't find the info anywhere.

Only need to use them as a back up. But, of course, as a back up I won't have much time with a stressed out agent if I'm not listed anywhere.

Ferd

Check Essential 04-18-2011 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 982158)
I don't know why so many crew members are traveling with a wardrobe that would equip a member of the British Royal Family. We had ONE flight attendant completely fill the forward coat closet on a trip where she simply turned with the jet. When I asked, she explained she was a commuter. So, to get this straight, she had three bags, a very large purse & food which went with her on at least four Delta flights which IMHO do belong to our revenue passengers.

This. ^^^^^^

I'm seeing more of that these days. Had a flt attendant just the other day who was hauling probably 150 pounds of crap on a turn-around. She explained it the same way. She was a commuter. She backs up all her trips and comes to Atlanta only once or maybe twice a month. Has no crashpad. Uses the lounge to sleep. Eats canned tuna. (or it might have been Little Friskies)
Pretty ridiculous.


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