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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
(Post 985459)
Ragtop for President!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 985364)
The management guy has time to post your responses in multiple threads, but he never answered my question about Hawaiian being a Delta peer either...the one where Hawaiian's creditors were paid 100 cents on the dollar in their sham bankruptcy. Delta pilots were the second largest creditor in our trip through the courts and got 60 cents on the dollar. The largest creditor only got 46 cents...:(
Hawaiian Airlines. Did or did they not file for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on March 21, 2003? Hawaiian Airlines. Did or did they not receive court approval for its reorganization plan that included renegotiated contracts with its union work groups under an 1113 provision? In regards to Hawaiian again. Did ALPA or did ALPA not negotiate a TA that was voted down by the pilots by a 55 to 45 margin causing Hawaiian to then threaten to return to the court to obtain a contract? Did the Hawaiian pilots, or did they not, then approve their second TA that contained a much better deal and was negotiated, rather than concieved by the judge, through the same 1113 process and code Delta pilots were working with in BK court? And finally, to your often repeated claim that Hawaiian was involved in a "sham" bankruptcy, and that fact must be true because their creditors received 100%on their claims: Multiple parties were bidding on Hawaiian as they were set to emerge from court reorganization. The bidding war per se was what enabled theose creditors to obtain that kind of return, not the "sham" bankruptcy. Bullish in bankruptcy With Hawaiian reporting this week the best first-quarter operating profit in its history and the 12th straight month in the black, prospective bidders were getting financial data from the trustee to polish their plans. Adams and Carty got general financial data last week and have submitted a request for more specific data covering individual route profitability. The process is similar to due diligence when a prospective purchaser of a business looks at the books. But when Adams heard this, he chuckled. "There is one big difference from regular due diligence," he said. "They're the sellers, but we think their forecast is a lot more dismal than ours will be." Hawaiian management has warned employees that current profitability could be a window of profits that closes later if mainland airlines enter Hawaiian's best-performing routes. Carty doesn't think so. Mainland carriers not already flying to Hawaii tend not to have the right aircraft for the run. "Southwest and America West couldn't fly here without changing their business model," he said. Other bidders also said they think Hawaiian and Aloha have found a niche in their mainland routes that would be difficult for other airlines to exploit, especially in the next few years when they are likely to be concentrating on improving the profitability of the routes they already have. |
When the next TA is presented to the membership, I will first look at section 1. If it does not show tightened language and improvements--No vote. I will then look at payrates/compenstation. If the package will not result in compensation of SWA/FDX/UPS+ (for an average month, not scenarios that require green/white/yellow slipping, etc.)--No vote. Third I will look at scheduling. Without major improvements--No vote. If the TA passes those three tests I will then look over the other sections and determine if it is acceptable. When the company sits across the table to exchange openers, I want them to know that we have 12,000 pilots that will vote this way and a union that will not present them with anything less.
I am afraid that the union I employ to protect my interests will try to sell us a contract for less than I am worth. I am afraid that my union will continue to allow more of our flying to be outsourced. All of this in the name of good relations with the company. And thats the FACTS! |
Oh, and Ragtop. Most excellent post.
Hey Slow and call sign ***** ****. I do not endorse DPA. I have been an ALPA member at several other airlines. I have seen effective and not so effective MEC's over the days. I want to see DALPA reverse the course they are on and make the changes that will benefit the will and desire of Delta pilots. I will advocate for those changes, along with many other pilots that can be found both here and on the line. Your fear, and those that make a living on ALPA and not line flying, should be the collective number of unsatisfied members and not the DPA. It won't take many more received resolutions and tone deaf stone walling to energize these people. People like Ragtop. A well organized recall campaign can clean up DALPA much quicker than DPA can become our bargaining agent. Sleep tight.:) |
Originally Posted by MoonShot
(Post 985287)
I've been off a month waiting for OE. I have to tell you, its like being retired! LOVING IT! I still can't figure out why these 60+ guys are hanging around, especially the ones with pensions. Get the heck outta here! There are much better things in life than sitting in the left seat of a widebody until they have to haul you away in a long black Cadillac.
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Originally Posted by TheManager
(Post 985489)
Oh, and Ragtop. Most excellent post.
Hey Slow and call sign ***** ****. I do not endorse DPA. I have been an ALPA member at several other airlines. I have seen effective and not so effective MEC's over the days. I want to see DALPA reverse the course they are on and make the changes that will benefit the will and desire of Delta pilots. I will advocate for those changes, along with many other pilots that can be found both here and on the line. Your fear, and those that make a living on ALPA and not line flying, should be the collective number of unsatisfied members and not the DPA. It won't take many more received resolutions and tone deaf stone walling to energize these people. People like Ragtop. A well organized recall campaign can clean up DALPA much quicker than DPA can become our bargaining agent. Sleep tight.:) |
Originally Posted by maddogmax
(Post 985492)
Just curious, would you feel the same way if you knew you were never coming back?
I can tell you right now I would feel that way if I knew I was never coming back. This is a J O B and that is it. I had a couple of months off last year and it was outstanding. If I was one of the fNWA guys with a $8000 a month or more pension I would be gone as soon as I could sign the paper work. Then again I am still with my first wife, first house, and don't live outside my means. |
Originally Posted by caddis
(Post 985496)
I can tell you right now I would feel that way if I knew I was never coming back. This is a J O B and that is it. I had a couple of months off last year and it was outstanding.
If I was one of the fNWA guys with a $8000 a month or more pension I would be gone as soon as I could sign the paper work. Then again I am still with my first wife, first house, and don't live outside my means. |
Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 985386)
I believe getting our reserve guarantee to ALV-5 with a floor of 75 should be a priority in our next contract. I would also like to eliminate differences between reserve and regular credit calculations when on a rotation. Those have been a couple of my pet peeves, but I'm just one of 12,000 opinions.
87 hours is the total active pilot pay hour average for 2010. That includes greenslips, training, vacation, credit...anything that is calculated and paid through the hourly rate. When we cut back in 2009 the average was just under 82. Interestingly, one of the guys whining the loudest about ALPA FPL on the other forum had a heck of a summer last year...195 hours in July alone as a domestic A320 guy. I'd love to get some of that!:D Slow, In my opinion overall DALPA has done pretty good for us in the post 911 era with one exception. Times were tough and we took it in the shorts - which I don't think we could have avoided for the most part - Kudos to DALPA for salvaging what they could during this dark period. The one area were I see DALPA lacking is SCOPE. I give DALPA overall a B grade with a solid F on scope. It just does not appear to register with the same level of urgency to the DALPA guys as it does with at least the lower 2/3 of the seniority list. I am sure that most DALPA guys want to hold the line on SCOPE but that is not always apparent. So the Republic fiasco is not a scope violation - fine, but then admit our SCOPE section sucks. SCOPE is supposed to protect us, the Delta Pilots, from other Pilots - not from "operating certificates." How about DALPA saying something like "Hey guys, we hate to admit it but Republic is not in violation of our SCOPE clause, we will however make every effort to tighten up our SCOPE language in section 6." Its almost as if DALPA does not want to fight for SCOPE. Or if they do, for some reason they are very timid about it. Could it be that this is what happens when ALPA National has almost as many if not more RJ drivers as mainline pilots? Scoop |
Firefox and iCrew on Android
Okay, since we are on our own getting iCrew to work with Android.
Disclaimers: 1. You must already know how to change your Android Applications Settings to allow installation of non-Market Android applications. 2. This has been tested on, and only on, a Droid2 running Android 2.2(Froyo). I don't have a Android 3(Honeycomb) device to test. 3. If you are using an earlier version than 4b4 and it works, dont mess with it. If you are using 4b5 or 4 then this may help you with iCrew. 3. Use this information at your own risk. This is how to install an older version of Firefox for Android that works with iCrew: Optional step - Uninstall the current Firefox using Application Manager. 1. Use your phone web browser to go to "ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/releases/4.0b4/android-r7/en-US/" WITHOUT THE QUOTATION MARKS or you can try this link Index of /pub/mozilla.org/mobile/releases/4.0b4/android-r7/en-US or type this link into your browser http://tinyurl.com/6zmf84y Download (click on) fennec-4.0b4.en-US.eabi-arm.apk 2. Find the file on your phone where it was downloaded and click on it. 3. Install the App. 4. When done installing launch Firefox and test deltanet and iCrew. I selected Firefox version 4b4 because 4b5 and the latest version gave me problems in iCrew. Good Luck and use at your own risk. I'll try and follow this up with a Mac version to revert back to FF3.6 in OSX. |
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