Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL

I'd say you and your pals are in the shadows here. Good for the goose but not the gander? Your idea of leadership is unanimity. No public debate, no dissent, just goose stepping along together. Disagree and you are an enemy of the organization. Yawn. We agree on several things - ALPA doesn't need to go, but a few individuals do. I think we differ on who. BTW, I can guarantee I'm never on here posting opinion while on pilot dues dollars flight pay loss. Can you? Or is yours part of an endorsed strategic plan? Would my reps know of such an effort, or is it part of the inner "Star Chamber"?

You evade the question of why for such an insignificant, non-representative cross section of the pilot group there seems to be so much emphasis and attention to so few here and on the web forums?

Originally Posted by scambo1

Alfa;

Can you make that a little less cryptic for those of us who would like to elevate our SA.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo

Carl did a great job of making up words I did not say and then twisting it into some conspiracy theory. Here is the flaw in Carl's argument; if I really ignored the majority and only did what I wanted, why did the vast majority (over 90%) of my council approve of my work? Were they all fooled? I still see people that thank me for my work during a very difficult time. That is what made all the hassle worthwhile.

I was wrong to personalize this. I shouldn't have said "you" I should have just left it to this webboard and the ALPA webboard as a group. The issues discussed here and the opinions that are the majority here do not match the majority of the pilot group. They don't match the majority of the pilots I fly with. They don't match the majority of the pilots that I talked to in the pilot lounge, at social meetings, flying the line, calling on the phone, and all the other ways I reached out to hear the views of my pilots. Surely you would concede that the number of pilots that post often on this board and the ALPA board are a small percentage of the total pilot group.

I think you are a smart guy and you should probably get involved in the union. Again, I apologize for making it personal with you. Sign up for some committee work and find out how the union works. You will find a bunch of guys just like you that are busting their humps to get more for the pilots. You will also find that if there were any easy answers, people would have just done it. The issues are much more complicated than they seem, kind of like how flying a jet is more complicated than pushing the autopilot button. Every organization needs new blood to keep the energy up.

Originally Posted by Dash8widget

Actually, when were talking furloughs, the poop flows uphill. You loose the bottom 900 and the displacements resonate up through the seniority list. I'm glad that your in a position to not be effected by the loose of 450 captain positions - good for you. The bottom 900 are hating life, being on the street and all (I would be one of them), but everyone else is loosing bidding power as they're relative seniority is eroded.

For the record - I got you're original point, but I'm not sure if you got mine. Maybe you were to busy correcting my grammar.

Originally Posted by Whidbey

Apologies if this has been posted before.

Video link to Captain Sullenberger on Real Time with Bill Maher on April 8. Great discussion of pay cuts, Colgan Air in Buffalo, etc.

I wonder if Sully is going to be vocal in the upcoming contract issues at the various carriers.

LiveLeak.com - Captain "Sully" Sullenberger on Bill Maher 08 April 2011

Originally Posted by tsquare

Did that commie fool mahr comment on Sully's gestapo style uniform? HE's a m o r o n

Originally Posted by The Chow

I thought DALPA had a position on the BOD as a result of the bankruptcy.

So if that's true why can't the Delta pilots insist no new contracts and large planes to the regionals.

Please educate me. One day I'm hoping to be employed at the majors


TC