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Old 05-04-2011 | 10:12 AM
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Did any one notice the hook and cable attached to the "wreckage".


Yup. Most likely comes from the flatbed truck and crane seen above. The Pakistanis have to collect the evidence somehow. Probably so they can sell it to the highest bidder.
Old 05-04-2011 | 12:55 PM
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LOA 28 (Early Outs is out)
Old 05-04-2011 | 01:01 PM
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Interesting look at what we may have coming in the future, from AW&ST: Air Canada is contemplating a third attempt at a low-cost subsidiary…to operate 30 A319s and 20 B767s. *Proposed under a new tentative labor accord with the mainline carrier's pilots, will hire crews under a separate mechanism, with hourly wages and DC plans instead of the salaries and DB plans offered legacy pilots.

Is Air Canada ALPA?
Old 05-04-2011 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
LOA 28 (Early Outs is out)
Looked like more of an announcement to me.. the LOA didn't say anything..
Old 05-04-2011 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Looked like more of an announcement to me.. the LOA didn't say anything..
It looks like just an offer of the program everyone else is getting. I know we are not fat staffed.
Old 05-04-2011 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
It looks like just an offer of the program everyone else is getting. I know we are not fat staffed.
I dunno, I have seen plenty of fat guys in uniform.. Seriously, where are the details? And what's the over/under on takers? I'm betting like all of these programs, it will be <10.
Old 05-04-2011 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyZ
Interesting look at what we may have coming in the future, from AW&ST: Air Canada is contemplating a third attempt at a low-cost subsidiary…to operate 30 A319s and 20 B767s. *Proposed under a new tentative labor accord with the mainline carrier's pilots, will hire crews under a separate mechanism, with hourly wages and DC plans instead of the salaries and DB plans offered legacy pilots.

Is Air Canada ALPA?
WT..F....When will we(pilots as a whole) learn that unity means every possible pilot in every possible plane on every possible route with no exception(when legally permissible), I swear we eat our young at every turn........

To answer you, nope, AC pilots have an independent union.


(To DAL's MEC credit during BK days, the company wanted to outsource the Song flying and the union stood firm for seniority list pilots making regular wages and won.)
Old 05-04-2011 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I dunno, I have seen plenty of fat guys in uniform.. Seriously, where are the details? And what's the over/under on takers? I'm betting like all of these programs, it will be <10.

I will take the under, as in zero.

From the message "After preliminary discussions between the Company and ALPA, all parties agreed that, although no pilot overstaffing is expected to exist during the timeline of these programs, a Delta pilot who qualifies for one of the voluntary programs should be eligible to participate under the same stipulations as any other employee."
Old 05-04-2011 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1234
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The 14 year deal was a fNWA item and I don't think that got carried over in the PWA. I think it is back to 10 years but as usual, I could be wrong.
As fDAL, I got the same letter. It basically said that if you gave notice that you wanted to return prior to the 10-year window closing, the company would extend your recall rights to the 14-year point. During this four year period you will be required to return at the first offer of a training date.

I don't think any modification to the PWA was ever made.

If they apply this standard, I suppose any pilot that has not put in for recall at the 10-year point could be dropped off the SL. The rest will remain until 14-years or the next hiring cycle, whichever occurs first.

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Old 05-04-2011 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jherk02
As fDAL, I got the same letter. It basically said that if you gave notice that you wanted to return prior to the 10-year window closing, the company would extend your recall rights to the 14-year point. During this four year period you will be required to return at the first offer of a training date.

I don't think any modification to the PWA was ever made.

If they apply this standard, I suppose any pilot that has not put in for recall at the 10-year point could be dropped of the SL. The rest will remain until 14-years or the next hiring cycle, whichever occurs first.
Yes, I got the same letter. That's fDAL as well.
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