Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Speaking on behalf of those few hundred hired last year, I beg to differ...I think Bar's prediction of furloughs will not materialize, with FedEx, SWA, Atlas, and several other carriers hiring, combined with the upcoming retirements. A furlough is not cost effective unless it lasts two years or more, from the senior captains I've talked to; likewise, RA has made the statement in the last couple of months that, "Delta is not a furlough airline."
Even if there was one, it certainly wouldn't last long.
Even if there was one, it certainly wouldn't last long.
Elvis;
You are absolutely correct. If we furlough, its because the mayan calendar is correct...then it wont matter. Personally, I expect a market correction in the near future with a fall rally, but that is not a furlough reason.
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Yeah right....my laundry must stink, cause I've done just as soon as bids were out...no takers. Not incredibly bad trips either.....
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Back when we ran the merger numbers it was obvious which airplanes would go away in which order. The surprise has been that the strength of our network supported them as long as they did.
While NRT is not being talked about much, I'm sure that mess tanked the justification for keeping the 747's on the short term.
It would take digging into the cargo numbers to figure out if the 747 is a keeper. (It would seem Japan needs a Berlin Airlift, but that has not materialized)
In really crazy coincidences which mean nothing, Virgin has a dozen 747-400's. Now that BA/AA is tied up and Virgin's got the "Office of Fair Trading" up their butt, they need friends sooner rather than later.
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We also have not heard management's fuel assumptions. That's a wild card.
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Without the numbers in front of me, I can not be sure, but it seems the 747-400 is around 30% more expensive per RSM than the 777-200. The 777-300 is the answer for what Delta needs, but those require Cap Ex.
Back when we ran the merger numbers it was obvious which airplanes would go away in which order. The surprise has been that the strength of our network supported them as long as they did.
While NRT is not being talked about much, I'm sure that mess tanked the justification for keeping the 747's on the short term.
It would take digging into the cargo numbers to figure out if the 747 is a keeper. (It would seem Japan needs a Berlin Airlift, but that has not materialized)
In really crazy coincidences which mean nothing, Virgin has a dozen 747-400's. Now that BA/AA is tied up and Virgin's got the "Office of Fair Trading" up their butt, they need friends sooner rather than later.
Back when we ran the merger numbers it was obvious which airplanes would go away in which order. The surprise has been that the strength of our network supported them as long as they did.
While NRT is not being talked about much, I'm sure that mess tanked the justification for keeping the 747's on the short term.
It would take digging into the cargo numbers to figure out if the 747 is a keeper. (It would seem Japan needs a Berlin Airlift, but that has not materialized)
In really crazy coincidences which mean nothing, Virgin has a dozen 747-400's. Now that BA/AA is tied up and Virgin's got the "Office of Fair Trading" up their butt, they need friends sooner rather than later.
Without the numbers in front of me, I can not be sure, but it seems the 747-400 is around 30% more expensive per RSM than the 777-200. The 777-300 is the answer for what Delta needs, but those require Cap Ex.
Back when we ran the merger numbers it was obvious which airplanes would go away in which order. The surprise has been that the strength of our network supported them as long as they did.
While NRT is not being talked about much, I'm sure that mess tanked the justification for keeping the 747's on the short term.
It would take digging into the cargo numbers to figure out if the 747 is a keeper. (It would seem Japan needs a Berlin Airlift, but that has not materialized)
In really crazy coincidences which mean nothing, Virgin has a dozen 747-400's. Now that BA/AA is tied up and Virgin's got the "Office of Fair Trading" up their butt, they need friends sooner rather than later.
Back when we ran the merger numbers it was obvious which airplanes would go away in which order. The surprise has been that the strength of our network supported them as long as they did.
While NRT is not being talked about much, I'm sure that mess tanked the justification for keeping the 747's on the short term.
It would take digging into the cargo numbers to figure out if the 747 is a keeper. (It would seem Japan needs a Berlin Airlift, but that has not materialized)
In really crazy coincidences which mean nothing, Virgin has a dozen 747-400's. Now that BA/AA is tied up and Virgin's got the "Office of Fair Trading" up their butt, they need friends sooner rather than later.
I mean even SWA is upgrading their 733 cockpits and keeping those pop tops flying.
depends on how you're looking at it...
DALs share of the JV SKM (Seat Kilometers) is pegged at 50% with AFKLM sharing the remaining 50%.
AF and KLM combined have the same size pie as DAL: 50%
If there's a 10% cut in SKM that pretty much means 5% of that SKM capacity cut comes out of DALs share.
Of course a 10% cut for the JV also means a 10% cut for DAL
Alitalia was added to the JV later, not sure if they diluted the AFKLM share or increased it vs DAL.
The big question is what happens when Virgin Atlantic joins the fold...
call your reps and ask them that.
Cheers
George
DALs share of the JV SKM (Seat Kilometers) is pegged at 50% with AFKLM sharing the remaining 50%.
AF and KLM combined have the same size pie as DAL: 50%
If there's a 10% cut in SKM that pretty much means 5% of that SKM capacity cut comes out of DALs share.
Of course a 10% cut for the JV also means a 10% cut for DAL
Alitalia was added to the JV later, not sure if they diluted the AFKLM share or increased it vs DAL.
The big question is what happens when Virgin Atlantic joins the fold...
call your reps and ask them that.
Cheers
George
This capacity cut will come with the normal seasonal pull down, and then changing the gauge on many routes. So lets say that DTW-AMS is on a 744 it may now be on a 767. Or FCO from ATL is on a 330, but will now be on a 767 and only five days a week.
The DAL jets as stated earlier will be redeployed to other markets like Asia and South America. I can easily see them pulling the 765 of LHR and making it do SA runs and the 330's doing Asia Hops. Point is, that it the AE may not reflect what you think it may. Shifting block hrs for two quarters does not give an ROI on displacements. Of course if they have opted for a 2012 summer block pulldown from this year, you may see some displacements but I am not sure they are willing to commit to that yet.
More like an acquisition. It is also in line with a large a/c order. You need a good stock price and good liquidity to finance the down payment on 100+ hulls.
Me thinks HI and then AS. HI will be a trow away if need be.
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