Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-29-2011, 08:04 AM
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Somebody posted a funny list of stuff about the MD-88 the other day on this or one of the other threads. Anybody remember who posted/where it is at?
05-29-2011, 08:09 AM
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I did not post it to be funny. It was a list of the bat guano engineering that a careless and indifferent FAA signed off on as an airworthy design. I thought it too controversial and took it down.
05-29-2011, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Five
I ask "You guys know what a flux capacitor is, right?"
Does the T38C really have 1.21 Jigawatts of power?
05-29-2011, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
A Flux Capacitor makes time travel possible.
Does the T38C really have 1.21 Jigawatts of power?
Does the T38C really have 1.21 Jigawatts of power?
05-29-2011, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
You are exactly right.
The reasons for drawing the line had to do with pay and working conditions. The only way they could figure out how to discriminate was to base the line on aircraft, which was a very flawed decision since airplanes always grow in capacity and capability. It is also a easy limit to work around, as Republic has done with their "marketing certificates."
Inclusive scope would do away with the lines by simply stating "all Delta flying will be performed by Delta pilots." A compromise would be the joint venture language we have which covers the desirable flying. The most ineffective language is the exclusionary language which permits outsourcing of our undesirable flying.
I own one of those, and am able to quote you before you wrote that.
The reasons for drawing the line had to do with pay and working conditions. The only way they could figure out how to discriminate was to base the line on aircraft, which was a very flawed decision since airplanes always grow in capacity and capability. It is also a easy limit to work around, as Republic has done with their "marketing certificates."
Inclusive scope would do away with the lines by simply stating "all Delta flying will be performed by Delta pilots." A compromise would be the joint venture language we have which covers the desirable flying. The most ineffective language is the exclusionary language which permits outsourcing of our undesirable flying.
I own one of those, and am able to quote you before you wrote that.
05-29-2011, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
This whole thing is so underwhelming isn't it?
It's like a pilot who's run an aircraft off the end of the runway twice telling you how to fly your plane. It makes no sense to say these are the best lawyers in the business when they wrote our section 1, a colossal jewel of what not to do, and then don't even bother to enforce it anyways.
Who in the hell does ALPA have as lawyers?!?!?
If they don't try or win this redefine the definition of air carrier so as to beat back RAH then I sure as hell hope nobody has the gall to tell us to do anything but demand we go to court and have them fired.
BTW, my counter to the American Eagle/AMR thing would be to say AE was never Delta Connection carrier other than to serve as a codeshare in the same vein as Hawaiian. According to the 10K AE is a revenue proration agreement and DCI's are capacity purchase agreements, enough for me to say they have always operated different then RAH.
It's like a pilot who's run an aircraft off the end of the runway twice telling you how to fly your plane. It makes no sense to say these are the best lawyers in the business when they wrote our section 1, a colossal jewel of what not to do, and then don't even bother to enforce it anyways.
Who in the hell does ALPA have as lawyers?!?!?
If they don't try or win this redefine the definition of air carrier so as to beat back RAH then I sure as hell hope nobody has the gall to tell us to do anything but demand we go to court and have them fired.
BTW, my counter to the American Eagle/AMR thing would be to say AE was never Delta Connection carrier other than to serve as a codeshare in the same vein as Hawaiian. According to the 10K AE is a revenue proration agreement and DCI's are capacity purchase agreements, enough for me to say they have always operated different then RAH.
The union has absolutely no stomach of ANY sort of watchdogging of the ALPA lawyers, just like they don't want anyone watching the FPL issue.
A resolution to bring in independent counsel to watchdog scope issues failed miserably at the DTW LEC meeting. As it was explained to me, no one would touch it, even after it was admitted (albiet somewhat indirectly) that mistakes were made.
The FPL sideshow garnered far more interest, which, IMHO, is far down the priority list. If we can't count on our "watchdog, flat earther, lunatic fringe" council, then I suspect that we're pretty much boned. What a leadership fail.
Admitting that mistakes were made in the past is a first step, but it seems that we're locked into making the same mistakes.
For every rep that is allowed to remain in their position, who supports the current direction, makes us, as individuals, directly responsible. So everyone look in the mirror and say "shame on me".
Nu
05-29-2011, 09:00 AM
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Hey guys, I know that this has been talked about, but have to ask again. Due to my own inablility to recognize that Monday is Memorial Day, and seeing as how my Korean dry cleaner recognizes and honors it and will be closed on Monday, I have no clean uniforms.
If memory serves correctly the hotel in Narita will do our dry cleaning, correct?
If memory serves correctly the hotel in Narita will do our dry cleaning, correct?
05-29-2011, 09:32 AM
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Yes. Just use the dry cleaning forms in your room.
05-29-2011, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Five
Uh.... What the H___ is a Jigawatt?
Cue new picture of Keeley please. ;-)
Oh wait...that's a Jugawatt. :-)
05-29-2011, 09:39 AM
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Can you pm it to me?
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