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Old 06-07-2011, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxcackel View Post
I disagree, I think any crew member going to base to start work should have priority. Not going to anywhere else just your base. Get caught abusing this and all privledges are revoked. Times have changed and planes are full and oversold more than in the past and something needs to change. A Delta pilot or FA should not get bumped by an (ASA, Pinnacle,ect.) parent trying to get to work to fly Delta passengers anymore than an (ASA, Pinnacle, ect.) pilot or Fa trying to get to work to fly Delta passengers. And save the we elect to live out of base speech, everyone's not moving.
So with this premise, When on vacation with my family, and my parents are traveling with us on mainline and we have a ComAir Jumpseater they should get the seat ahead of my parents.....No I don't think so.

They may be flying our Pax as a feeder, but its not Delta. Delta doen't operate those RJ"s ( seperate debate and I agree we should) but really, you want super Non Rev status on someone elses airplane over their own employee riders... Just because you are commuting, come on dude thats not right.
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Old 06-07-2011, 06:47 AM
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Ok boys, history lesson time (and I'm behind in the hot chick picture quota)

Who is this and what is her relation to aviation? USAF guys better get this one!!

Ferd <--------didn't have a clue either till last night, then I got to the 1947 part of the autobiography



ok, small hint for the goggle challenged

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Old 06-07-2011, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog View Post
So, any intel as to what actually happened here? Amazing video.
Did you see the following under the video?

"Moscow - Russian military prosecutors launched an investigation on Wednesday after an amateur video captured a defence ministry jet lurching terrifyingly out of control in skies close to Moscow.

Videos of the Tupolev jet posted on YouTube by witnesses show the aircraft twisting from side to side uncontrollably before pilots manage to land it safely at a military aerodrome outside Moscow.

"The military prosecutors have launched a probe which should establish the reasons for the mid-air incident that almost led to an aviation disaster," a spokesperson for the chief military prosecutor's office told the RIA Novosti news agency on Wednesday.

The Tu-154 aircraft, dating back to the 1960s, was dubbed the "dancing plane" by bloggers.

The spokesperson for the chief military prosecutor's office told RIA Novosti that the aircraft's steering system had malfunctioned and praised the pilots for managing to land safely in a built-up area.

"During a test flight, the steering system broke down on the TU-154B-2 plane belonging to the Defence Ministry's 800th air base," the spokesperson said.

First flight in 10 years

"Thanks to the great professionalism and supreme skill of the pilots, the crew managed to land on the second attempt at Chkalovsk aerodrome, avoiding casualties among the airforce and the local population."

The video posted on April 30, which has been watched more than 380 000 times, says that the aircraft was being flown for the first time after a 10-year break.

The ageing Tupolev 154 planes, first flown in 1968 and used by Aeroflot until 2009, have been involved in a number of air accidents in recent years.

The aircraft's last major fatal crash was on April last year, when a Tu-154 carrying Polish president Lech Kaczynski and other top officials came down in fog near the Russian city of Smolensk.

In September a Tu-154 aircraft made a miraculous emergency landing on a derelict airstrip in the remote Komi region after its electrical systems failed midflight.

This year, the spectacular display of Russian military aviation that usually accompanies the Victory Day parade on Red Square on May 9 has been cancelled, according to media reports, in an apparent cost-cutting measure.

AFP"


I also read somewhere that the plane had been in storage and a ground engineer incorrectly connected the electronic flight control system. The yaw damper controls were wired to the aileron controls? Apparently this mistake has happened before because of the color of the wires. If the engineer connects green to green, it is incorrect. Following the book they connect wires of different colors. Stupid.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:18 AM
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Ella Raines and she was married to Robin Olds!! Good bit of info I did not know until today, do not ask me about it next month though.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149 View Post
Ok boys, history lesson time (and I'm behind in the hot chick picture quota)

Who is this and what is her relation to aviation? USAF guys better get this one!!

Ferd <--------didn't have a clue either till last night, then I got to the 1947 part of the autobiography



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Ella Raines, married to Robin Olds. Starred in several WWII dramas.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:28 AM
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Rudder/Sat..........

ding ding ding.......we have winners! All expense trips to DTW for my friends

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Old 06-07-2011, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
Did you see the following under the video?

"Moscow - Russian military prosecutors launched an investigation on Wednesday after an amateur video captured a defence ministry jet lurching terrifyingly out of control in skies close to Moscow.

Videos of the Tupolev jet posted on YouTube by witnesses show the aircraft twisting from side to side uncontrollably before pilots manage to land it safely at a military aerodrome outside Moscow.

"The military prosecutors have launched a probe which should establish the reasons for the mid-air incident that almost led to an aviation disaster," a spokesperson for the chief military prosecutor's office told the RIA Novosti news agency on Wednesday.

The Tu-154 aircraft, dating back to the 1960s, was dubbed the "dancing plane" by bloggers.

The spokesperson for the chief military prosecutor's office told RIA Novosti that the aircraft's steering system had malfunctioned and praised the pilots for managing to land safely in a built-up area.

"During a test flight, the steering system broke down on the TU-154B-2 plane belonging to the Defence Ministry's 800th air base," the spokesperson said.

First flight in 10 years

"Thanks to the great professionalism and supreme skill of the pilots, the crew managed to land on the second attempt at Chkalovsk aerodrome, avoiding casualties among the airforce and the local population."

The video posted on April 30, which has been watched more than 380 000 times, says that the aircraft was being flown for the first time after a 10-year break.

The ageing Tupolev 154 planes, first flown in 1968 and used by Aeroflot until 2009, have been involved in a number of air accidents in recent years.

The aircraft's last major fatal crash was on April last year, when a Tu-154 carrying Polish president Lech Kaczynski and other top officials came down in fog near the Russian city of Smolensk.

In September a Tu-154 aircraft made a miraculous emergency landing on a derelict airstrip in the remote Komi region after its electrical systems failed midflight.

This year, the spectacular display of Russian military aviation that usually accompanies the Victory Day parade on Red Square on May 9 has been cancelled, according to media reports, in an apparent cost-cutting measure.

AFP"


I also read somewhere that the plane had been in storage and a ground engineer incorrectly connected the electronic flight control system. The yaw damper controls were wired to the aileron controls? Apparently this mistake has happened before because of the color of the wires. If the engineer connects green to green, it is incorrect. Following the book they connect wires of different colors. Stupid.
Wow. Thanks.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:48 AM
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He just doesn't look right without the 'stache.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxcackel View Post
And save the we elect to live out of base speech, everyone's not moving.
So what's your solution as the current non-rev policy isn't changing.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude View Post
He just doesn't look right without the 'stache.
No he sure doesn't does he. I was looking at his official (promotable) photo as the one star Superintendent at the USAFA and he looks weird in that one too.

I'm just a little under halfway through his autobiography. Good read, but it sure was a different Air Force back then. Talk about better to ask forgiveness than ask permission era He would have never survived the 80s/90s as a young Lt

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