Originally Posted by sailingfun

Someone else posted they average 7 hours a day! Yet the SWAPA publication states they average less then 9 hours a day on duty. Lets see, report and release 1:30 and then in less then 7:30 minutes remaining averaging 7 hours flight time. Even with their quick turns not likely.

There is a sample 3 day trip posted on the welcome package. I think it shows 16:50 total time. A friend there says he thinks they run about 17 average on a 3 day so sounds about right, not quite the 21 posted here.

Originally Posted by mmaviator

I was on a Delta flight and found this was left behind..........



Not sure what attachment that is on the Ipod???

Originally Posted by mmaviator

I was on a Delta flight and found this was left behind..........



Not sure what attachment that is on the Ipod???

Originally Posted by mmaviator

I was on a Delta flight and found this was left behind..........



Not sure what attachment that is on the Ipod???

Originally Posted by iaflyer

Two points, first is that's 7 hours a day of CREDIT, not flying time. The 3 day trip that they have as an example shows 4+50 of block, 6+20 of duty (4+50 plus 1+30) yet it pays 6+30 for the first day. Very nice. I don't see many Delta trips that pay more in total that duty time.

Second, they really do turn the airplanes in 20-25 minutes many times. I know it's hard to understand from our hub/spoke system, with long turn times. Because they turn the airplanes quickly, their duty days are not long. Thus, they spend very little time sitting around essentially not getting paid.

So look at each of our fleets as a "linear system" - our 757/767 fleet is a huge operation. Our B757/767/767ERs add up to 256 airplanes. That seems like a pretty big airline in itself. Why am I changing airplanes every freaking leg?

I think you said that it was better to use Delta's average revenue per pilot rather than comparing us to SWA. Why pick that metric?

Originally Posted by sailingfun

That metric is better because there is a substantial difference between us and Southwest in that regard. Revenue also provides the means to pay pilots. I have seen the total block hour numbers between Delta and SW. If you compare the 737 we would only need a 8 to 10 percent raise in pay and status quo on everything else to be equal to SW. I want a whole lot more then a 10 percent raise in the next contract. SW is not my goal but seems to be for a lot of people on the forum.

In the rotation you looked at your not comparing hours to hours. The credit numbers are in the SW trip system. A trip is worth 52 minutes.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

If you compare the 737 we would only need a 8 to 10 percent raise in pay and status quo on everything else to be equal to SW.

Originally Posted by scambo1

How do you come up with a 10% raise and status quo to get to $230k for a narrow body Capt at DAL?

Please explain that math.