Sadly, this doesn't surprise me at all. The MEM voting reps are not on board with large, restorative pay increases and they concurred with the lack of interest in pursuing the RAH scope violation.

 

LM's imprint on this association didn't just vaporize when he left. But it does now belong to the current group, you are right about that. Also, I read everything. Very well written, very generic.

 

Bump.

Can anyone answer this question?

Anyone?

 

I would say D, all of the above.

ALPA will not be pursuing the RAH issue. Absolutely sickening.

 

It's easier to make a point than make a difference.

But the point is, you can't make a difference in this system. I think Thomas Jefferson was right when he looked at another system that was bound never to change and said this:

You cannot change ALPA if you can't elect the top. The system is designed from within to prevent change. Recall all we want but we'll just end up having another election of people we've never met but who write us a nice pandering letter promising change, accountability, transparency, scope, pay, scope, pay and whatever else you want, is just all so very futile.

I actually appreciate Slow and PG and Sailing for coming on here and talking to us and expressing their point of view because it's more than the one snide sentence responses I've gotten from my LEC. Makes me see why showing up for a meeting at a hotel is just a waste of time.

We do not have a voice until we threaten to do the only thing we can do, replace. It's a notion pilots should understand, being replaced. After all, what replaced the NWA DC-9-10 or even the -30 and the Delta 737-200?

I have not thrown in my DPA card yet. But I think ALPA National wallows in it's conflict of interest and DALPA, the good soldier, seems to tell us talking about scope is giving away bargaining position. To which I wonder, if you don't want to say it's not on the table then you're saying it's on the table? It's only natural we might move towards a substitute given the system and it's direction. I believe the notion of doing so is something the cool kids call, a whipsaw?

No. But I'm not selling either.

Worry. All I can say is FCR, here I come. I wont air this out here but at the same time.

 

Airline Stocks-->Absolute worst investment. Like an idiot, I kept mine..DAMN IT!

TEN

 

Oh God, I think I just threw up in my mouth ...

Air France Aims to Sidestep Unions With Volunteer Low-Cost Crews - Bloomberg

 

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I have not thrown in my DPA card yet. But I think ALPA National wallows in it's conflict of interest and DALPA, the good soldier, seems to tell us talking about scope is giving away bargaining position. To which I wonder, if you don't want to say it's not on the table then you're saying it's on the table. It's only natural we might move towards a substitute given the system and it's direction. I believe the notion of doing so is something the cool kids call, a whipsaw?

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Send in your card. You have nothing to lose. When the vote comes down the road, that is the time that the decision really has to be made. It's like a job interview. You really don't have to make a choice until the position is offered to you. Seriously, why NOT send a shot across the bow of ALPA?!?! Only good can come from that. What, you have friends at ALPA National that might be offended? Screw that. This is business and they have been performing poorly.

A few months ago I was deadheading out of PNS (as I recall) at o'dark thirty and a couple of ALPA bigwigs were put next to me on the flight. I don't remember their names, but I have seen their mustached faces in the monthly mag. I only wanted to catch a nap before my long day really got started, but they were proud to introduce themselves to me as so and so of ALPA, as if I should have known them by sight. They then asked me what I thought of the transition to DAL as I'd only been here about 3 years. In a very positive manner I outlined how much better DAL was than my previous employer. However, I did bring up a few sticking points as I've been a union member for a good while if you include my previous life. The few semi-negative comments I made were met boldly with the "talk to your reps" response. In other words, I felt they could have given two *******s about what I had to say. It was like water off a duck's back.

Send in your card. Talk to your friends within the pilot group and convince them to do the same. Take it to the streets.

 

SWA+ isn't just about narrowbody short haul 117-137 seat payrates...its also about the scope that goes with those pay rates, which is far more of an improvement than the pay rates alone. They have the pay because they have the scope. The two are not separate issues.

 

Best advice any Delta pilot can get !