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Superpilot92 07-25-2011 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1028105)
The DOT and other airlines involvement in the slot swap is disgusting.

Agreed!! !

georgetg 07-25-2011 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1028365)
Could you put that in English for us old guys? :confused::D

Them Fellers at Boeing gots themselves some good engineers and some bad management.

(t-square, stop reading here.)

The fan diameter of the Pratt and Whitney PW1000 engine will be 81".
The fan diameter for the current 737NG with the squished nacelles is 61" inches.

There's no room for a bigger fan.

So Boeing is going to jack up the nose 8"
To do that they have to add a bulge under the fuselage.
They don't want to redo the main gear, so the biggest fan that fits is 70"

That's a 14% difference in fan size with the equivalent fuel burn implications.
Even if the 737 is lighter and more efficient than the A320 it's not more than 5-7% in fuel burn.

The 737RE is a bandaid on a reworked late 60s design.
The A320neo is a re-engined mid 80s design.

If Delta orders the GTF Pratt motors on the Baby Bus order coming up, its a sign of long-term financial planning.

If Delta orders the LEAP-X motor or goes out and orders the 73RE, it's a sign of short-term gain with long-term pain...

Now if Boeing kept the 727 concept they could put 90" fans on the tail :D

Cheers
George



Cheers
George

acl65pilot 07-25-2011 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1028355)
FTB, I've heard about 600 per year max.

Current training limits us to about 600 a year, but I am guessing that they could slam 800 a year though if they had one big bid with openings everywhere and just put new hires where they needed them. Of course, the smart thing to do would be to preemptively hire.

tsquare 07-25-2011 01:07 PM

Thanks George... injuneers.. gud.. managemunt.. bad:D

Eat more chikun!

PilotFrog 07-25-2011 01:14 PM

So anyone want to get together and get a start-up going with the idea that we would create the LOW LOW LOW cost air carrier out of LaGuardia to buy up the slots? Once we win the auction we could turn around and sell them back to Delta, cash out and retire!

PilotFrog 07-25-2011 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1028048)
Can someone please PM me the name of our ALPA jumpseat guy, and email address? Thanks. Was denied jumpseat by gate (not crew) for international flight on continental, but our emails from ALPA said that we are allowed that now. Everyone from the Captain to gate agents to operations to dispatch got involved and the final word was no, I can't occupy the jumpseat! Does anyone have any info on why this would be? A deadheading pilot for continental was very nice and took the JS so I could get on, but if it weren't for him I would have been stranded in a foreign country. Ugh.

Same thing happened to me on American. If you find out something can you PM me?

Boomer 07-25-2011 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1028332)
I'm discouraged by the fact that you may be a CA, as you seem to encourage rushing.

I believe Paxhauler got to start over someplace new two years ago when Mesa/Freedom lost the DCI flying. Don't recall where but I'd imagine he's still right seat.

Unless there are two Paxhaulers (and Spa(c)klers, and TSquares, etc).

Columbia 07-25-2011 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1028353)
Quick question for anyone (and I'm sure this is hidden somewhere that is accessible to the masses but I'm not sure where) how many people can training handle in a year? Given the normal mix of initials, CQ or requal?

I'd be curious to know if they truly cannot handle the retirement binge coming (in 2017?) I wonder how much they'd have to increase early outs between now and then to flatten things out?

Not just 600-700 new hires a year, but also all the upgrades and people moving between aircraft as well as recurrents. Can they manage 4,000 events a year?

Check Essential 07-25-2011 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1028412)
Not just 600-700 new hires a year, but also all the upgrades and people moving between aircraft as well as recurrents. Can they manage 4,000 events a year?

They hired 90 per month through most of the late '80s til Jan '92.

They can flex up pretty easily if they use contract simulators.
We had facilities at Greenbriar. They used to send lots of guys to Miami all the time, etc. There are sims out there.
More expensive, but definitely an option if required.

Doug Masters 07-25-2011 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1028403)
Current training limits us to about 600 a year, but I am guessing that they could slam 800 a year though if they had one big bid with openings everywhere and just put new hires where they needed them. Of course, the smart thing to do would be to preemptively hire.

RA to DALPA (hypothetically): "Well boys we can't train enough pilots to grow the airline and replace the retiring guys. We need scope relief on 100 seaters to grow the airline. Here's a 20% pay increase. Sign off on it or we'll lose market share."

Thoughts?


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