Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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From: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift
Them Fellers at Boeing gots themselves some good engineers and some bad management.
(t-square, stop reading here.)
The fan diameter of the Pratt and Whitney PW1000 engine will be 81".
The fan diameter for the current 737NG with the squished nacelles is 61" inches.
There's no room for a bigger fan.
So Boeing is going to jack up the nose 8"
To do that they have to add a bulge under the fuselage.
They don't want to redo the main gear, so the biggest fan that fits is 70"
That's a 14% difference in fan size with the equivalent fuel burn implications.
Even if the 737 is lighter and more efficient than the A320 it's not more than 5-7% in fuel burn.
The 737RE is a bandaid on a reworked late 60s design.
The A320neo is a re-engined mid 80s design.
If Delta orders the GTF Pratt motors on the Baby Bus order coming up, its a sign of long-term financial planning.
If Delta orders the LEAP-X motor or goes out and orders the 73RE, it's a sign of short-term gain with long-term pain...
Now if Boeing kept the 727 concept they could put 90" fans on the tail
Cheers
George
Cheers
George
(t-square, stop reading here.)
The fan diameter of the Pratt and Whitney PW1000 engine will be 81".
The fan diameter for the current 737NG with the squished nacelles is 61" inches.
There's no room for a bigger fan.
So Boeing is going to jack up the nose 8"
To do that they have to add a bulge under the fuselage.
They don't want to redo the main gear, so the biggest fan that fits is 70"
That's a 14% difference in fan size with the equivalent fuel burn implications.
Even if the 737 is lighter and more efficient than the A320 it's not more than 5-7% in fuel burn.
The 737RE is a bandaid on a reworked late 60s design.
The A320neo is a re-engined mid 80s design.
If Delta orders the GTF Pratt motors on the Baby Bus order coming up, its a sign of long-term financial planning.
If Delta orders the LEAP-X motor or goes out and orders the 73RE, it's a sign of short-term gain with long-term pain...
Now if Boeing kept the 727 concept they could put 90" fans on the tail

Cheers
George
Cheers
George
Current training limits us to about 600 a year, but I am guessing that they could slam 800 a year though if they had one big bid with openings everywhere and just put new hires where they needed them. Of course, the smart thing to do would be to preemptively hire.
Thanks George... injuneers.. gud.. managemunt.. bad
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So anyone want to get together and get a start-up going with the idea that we would create the LOW LOW LOW cost air carrier out of LaGuardia to buy up the slots? Once we win the auction we could turn around and sell them back to Delta, cash out and retire!
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Can someone please PM me the name of our ALPA jumpseat guy, and email address? Thanks. Was denied jumpseat by gate (not crew) for international flight on continental, but our emails from ALPA said that we are allowed that now. Everyone from the Captain to gate agents to operations to dispatch got involved and the final word was no, I can't occupy the jumpseat! Does anyone have any info on why this would be? A deadheading pilot for continental was very nice and took the JS so I could get on, but if it weren't for him I would have been stranded in a foreign country. Ugh.
Unless there are two Paxhaulers (and Spa(c)klers, and TSquares, etc).
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Quick question for anyone (and I'm sure this is hidden somewhere that is accessible to the masses but I'm not sure where) how many people can training handle in a year? Given the normal mix of initials, CQ or requal?
I'd be curious to know if they truly cannot handle the retirement binge coming (in 2017?) I wonder how much they'd have to increase early outs between now and then to flatten things out?
I'd be curious to know if they truly cannot handle the retirement binge coming (in 2017?) I wonder how much they'd have to increase early outs between now and then to flatten things out?
They can flex up pretty easily if they use contract simulators.
We had facilities at Greenbriar. They used to send lots of guys to Miami all the time, etc. There are sims out there.
More expensive, but definitely an option if required.
Thoughts?
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