Originally Posted by Dirtdiver

You get single pay for the cnx trip. I had the same deal this week. I believe 23K has you on the hook for 6 hours from scheduled show time, with restrictions on when they must block you back in. They never called me in the window. Not bad pay for packing a bag and driving to the airport.

Originally Posted by DeadHead

If they did get you on a trip do you get single pay for the CNX trip plus what ever you end up flying or just GS pay for what you end up flying?

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

I just feel like posting this:

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

If DPA wins, I plan to launch a union replacement drive to form an ATL union. We compete with SEA, CVG, MEM for the same jobs, and I'm tired of them taking my flying.



Exact same analogy goes for my ATL base. You can't have one union representing pilots from all the different bases -- can't be done. Yet DPA would represent all of them. Not right.




Yeah, that's working so well at APA isn't it? The guy who pandered the most got the most votes. Good plan.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

If DPA wins, I plan to launch a union replacement drive to form an ATL union. We compete with SEA, CVG, MEM for the same jobs, and I'm tired of them taking my flying.

Exact same analogy goes for my ATL base. You can't have one union representing pilots from all the different bases -- can't be done. Yet DPA would represent all of them. Not right.

Originally Posted by Check Essential

That's a good attempt at rebuttal but the analogy fails because you can take your seniority and fly out of SEA, CVG or MEM if you wish.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Weak.

And by the premise of your response, I take it you think ALPA National can serve all of those airline pilots even when they compete for the same jobs?

News flash, they currently do


DCI wants as much of those jobs as they can get. Delta pilots want to have all of the jobs associated with that flying.

DCI can "want" all day long. It is Delta flying that DELTA pilots have negotiated away in Section 1 of our PWA

ALPA represents all of them.

There's no conflict of interest when it comes to who gets to do Delta flying, right?

No because it's Delta flying.


Hypothetical to Reroute and Alfa, would you support ending DCI and Alaska flying if Delta wanted to end DCI and Alaska flying? Would ALPA National give it a green light?

News flash number 2, ALPA national already has. Last time I checked CAL pilots were part of ALPA. Their section 6 opener is a continuation of 50 seat scope. News flash number 3. We got rid of Mesa flying. Is there a double secret probation DFR suit that nobody knows about????

...and to elect our own MEC Chairman so that change can be affected with far less roadblocks than today, yes? Would DALPA accept a resolution for direct election of the MEC Chairman by a majority pilot vote say every 2 years? Is there any reason why DALPA would not support such a simple and justifiable change to the current structure?

Sometimes it's hard to admit it, but yes, there are people who are smarter and have more information than the average line pilot. I want a rep who has full disclosure (via non-disclosure agreements) and the info on the table to make the right decision. I don't want 64 year old Joe Smoe who wants his A fund back picking the next MEC chair.

If its the ticket, let me ask something, is our pay as high as SWA's or scope as strong as SWA's today and will it be in 2014?

Originally Posted by scambo1

As a big fan of the L&G crack, even I must admit that we've gotten a little mudslingy in the last week or so. So, since I havent kept my ear to the ground lately, are there any rumors floating around out there that might have legs? ie: 717s, mergers, acquisitions, fleet renewal, 2012 summer flying, alpa opener, etc.