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Quote: I totally agree but I believe if the retiree medical issue had been fixed you would have seen many more taking the package. Also, remember not all north guys have BIG DB retirements even with 25+ YOS
Exactly this^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Was palnning to retire early, but now will probably stick around until 62-63!
Quote: And what happens if the person was turned down by DAL in an interview?
We could treat them just like Delta treated the (insert your choice from the menu below) who were turned down by Delta in an interview.

Northeast, Ransom, Western, C&S, ASA (some transferred), Comair (some of them too), Pan Am, Northwest, Pacific Northern Airlines, Mesaba, Compass and Huff Deland Dusters. For all others, just use this blank: _____________ and another sheet of paper if you run out of room.

Unity, more important than bigotry.

(not busting your chops, I like your posts. You just tossed me a softball and I couldn't resist taking a swing)
Quote: This would be awesome, but how would it work for say a guy at ASA who holds the -700 but stays on the -200 for QOL? Do they get an option to stay? With ASA/ExpressJet merging they have a ton of 50 seaters we won't want.
I dunno. I was asked if I heard something about it, and I responded in the negative. Since it popped up on here, I had to reply, since I had heard about it.

To me could make sense only because they know we will not sell anything larger than we have. As a result they get unlimited 65+ seat jets. They buy what they want, not what the pesky scope clause dictates and it is flown by us. The Quid is that those DCI pilots keep their bidding rights for AE's but in a down bid we push them down, or when there are growth jets we get to bid them with our system seniority and then as a result push them down. It is a great idea, but as with everything the details are where the devil is.
Quote: Carl,

According to DPA's lawyer, negotiating seniority is like negotiating a crew meal, no difference. If you don't believe me, go search youtube for a video series titled something like "Can't take the heat, USAPA in the desert." The whole thing is like two hours on 8 or 9 different videos so I am not going to spend the time to find the right link.

So DPA's lawyer has said that it is quite easy to renegotiate a seniority list. It might be difficult for him to announce that for another group that it's impossible to renegotiate a seniority list, that presents a severe conflict of interest there.

You are flat out wrong about the state of US Air's seniority list. There was a transition agreement that stated the process that the two groups would use to create an integrated list. That process was completed and the list was accepted by the company. There is a single seniority list at US Air, it just hasn't been used for anything because they are still in separate ops. Changing that list is no different that changing our list, and DPA's attorney says that seniority is just like a crew meal, so it's easy to change.

I don't know what lounge you hang out in in Detroit, but the one I hang out in has many people talking about how DPA is going to change the seniority list. DPA's attorney says that date of hire is the gold standard in integrating seniority lists, so that might be their target.

The problem with DPA now is that it is all things to all people. Some vote for DPA because they want a new seniority list. I have heard green book guys say that DPA is their ticket to seek revenge on the red book guys. Junior guys think DPA will eliminate RJ's and create hundreds of new mainline jet orders overnight. Middle seniority guys think that DPA will magically deliver a 50% pay raise. Some Delta dead zoners think DPA will deliver a new pension wrapped in a pretty bow. I don't know if the delay in delivering their constitution falls at least in part to somehow reconciling these diverse views of DPA.

One thing is certain, DPA is a chameleon now. Whenever their stated goals or milestones get in the way of reality, they merely change their website and voila, they are still all things to all people. If only it were that easy in the real world.
This is probably the most BS posting I have seen in a long time. I have never once heard DPA is looking at SLI issues. I happen to be on the 744 which is based in DTW and have not heard one comment linking DPA to SLI changes. You need to wake up from you own little night mare.
Quote: To me could make sense only because they know we will not sell anything larger than we have.
http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/1m3h
Quote: We could treat them just like Delta treated the (insert your choice from the menu below) who were turned down by Delta in an interview.

Northeast, Ransom, Western, C&S, ASA (some transferred), Comair (some of them too), Pan Am, Northwest, Pacific Northern Airlines, Mesaba, Compass and Huff Deland Dusters. For all others, just use this blank: _____________ and another sheet of paper if you run out of room.

Unity, more important than bigotry.

(not busting your chops, I like your posts. You just tossed me a softball and I couldn't resist taking a swing)
To whom are we supposed to have unity with? I have unity with Delta pilots only.

I support others, I support Coex pilots where I once worked and I refuse to pull up ladders, but my unity is with and only with Delta pilots.

I ask because in that CAL-Coex deal one of the pilots rejected was damn near fired multiple times at Coex. The type that would fly an RJ at 250 knots in all phases of flight except descent, then it was 200. He arrived tremendously late except on the last leg so he could catch his commute. He had money to make back I guess. Overall, a miserable individual.

CAL was right to say no. But they were forced to take him. There were a lot of good people not hired and left us scratching our heads I'm sure. But sometimes, there are people that you wouldn't want to share a cockpit with, no?
Quote: So DPA's lawyer has said that it is quite easy to renegotiate a seniority list.
‪Airplane! 2 - Dunn was over Unger, and I was over Dunn.‬‏ - YouTube

All things in our profession can be made fun of with scenes from the movie Airplane!
Quote: To whom are we supposed to have unity with? I have unity with Delta pilots only.
Point being, what was proposed a few threads back was a staple seniority merger with bidding protections, in which case they would be Delta pilots. Therefore your question would be moot by virtue of the fact that they would be Delta pilots.

Management's job is to keep them off the list, the union's job is to treat all union members the same.

Until they promote me, give me a better schedule, more pay, less responsibility and a better parking spot I'm still labor.

One of my favorite quotes from the banned version of the Cool Aid Chronicle:

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ALPA DEFENDS PILOT

Management gave 60 days leave without pay to Captain Smith who it was learned placed fourth in pro / amateur Pebble Beach golf tournament in on May Second, on a day Captain Smith had called in sick. ALPA has responded, filing a grievance which contests the discipline stating, "just think, if Captain Smith had not been sick, he would have won."

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It is a joke, but every pilot deserves our union's advocacy. Speaking as a pilot, I say, let management do their job.
Interesting news. Management used the bankruptcy rules to screw pilots. Some pilots used similar acts of legerdemain to unscrew their situation.

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DALLAS (AP) -- In a case involving Continental Airlines, a federal appeals court says benefit administrators don't have the power to decide whether employees' divorces are real or fake.

Continental sued nine of its pilots, claiming that they got "sham" divorces so their ex-spouses could tap their lump-sum pensions while they still worked for the airline -- then remarried the same partners.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday upheld a lower-court ruling that employers can't consider or investigate why employees get divorced or whether the divorce is genuine. The appeals court dismissed Continental's 2009 lawsuit, which was filed in federal district court in Houston.
Quote: Interesting news. Management used the bankruptcy rules to screw pilots. Some pilots used similar acts of legerdemain to unscrew their situation.
Now that ruling may effect a few DAL pilots.
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