Gomerglideslope

The most often heard excuse is "Well, the MEC TOLD US TO VOTE FOR IT, so it MUST be good..."

Funny, I never heard anyone say anything like that....the paroxysm of the self absorbed to view those who disagree with them as lazy, stupid or uninformed is alive and well here.

Reroute

Your analogy misses the mark, it's more like two football NFL teams(pilot groups) with their own coach (MEC), setting their own priorities and executing their own strategies to put their own team in the best position for success. There is one Commisioner (ALPA national) who ensures the rules (C&BLs, admin manual) are complied with and protecting the interests of the league (profession) from outside influences (cabotage, foreign ownership etc) from bringing the league down.

capncrunch

I love the irony in This statement.

finis72

No I don't know that. I am sure there is a percentage that will always vote yes but I don't think you Timbo or myself knows that number, I would like to think it is a small percentage.

DAL73n

Tsquare,

Telling PG to stick isn't productive - although he is usually WAY OFF BASE (and I don't think he'll ever come off that position) on his whole commuting is a choice position (Ask all our DFW commuters (or any of the other LARGE bases DAL has closed over the years)).

Like to add another perspective to this whole argument. While the decision to move/live in ATL has worked out for PG it has not/would not have been that way for everyone. When I was hired a move to ATL looked like it would have been a great move - until 9/11, my furlough for 4 years, etc. My staying in my home allowed me to survive my furlough. Quite frankly, I would have been SCREWED if I had moved to ATL as new hire. I have already been in 3 different bases (LAX twice) and have no idea where I will end up in 5 years so I elect to commute and not count on Delta keeping .... Fill in the blank ... base open and growing. Commuting is "sort of a choice" since our moving benefits suck and we can't always afford to move to where we're based. After 10 years my seniority still sucks so who knows where I'll end up next (like Buzzpat been going backwards in LAX for 3 years - at one time (2008) I was a senior lineholder (top 20%) there)).

YMMV

Tab Flyer

Not trying to be the grammar police, but the word "penultimate" is probably the number one malaproriately used word in the English language. It means almost the exact opposite of what most people thinks it means. But perhaps you ment it that way.

Pineapple Guy

Oh boy, Tab. Now you've done it. You dared to imply tsquare was wrong on something. Standby for a whole string of personal insults coming your way.

Pineapple Guy

You obviously haven't paid attention to my actual view. I have no problem with PS passes for XX years for pilots living in a closed base. I also have no problem if we, as a pilot group, negotiate for more generous moving expense allowances. But when a guy gets hired, and continues to live in Timbuktu, then calls in sick because he can't catch his commuter flight, and our sick leave hours get cut as a result.... yeah, I've got a problem with that.

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cni187

Dude I just saw some chicks like this roaming the terminals in Atlanta. Gotta love Friday!