Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-03-2011 | 07:26 AM
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08-03-2011 | 07:32 AM
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08-03-2011 | 07:38 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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From: Light Chop
Well that's no fun, what did T say?
BTW, I think I got a virus on my computer. Well I know I do. I blame searching for that perfect pic
. I have no idea but it's some redirect virus so every time I do a google search and click on the link it takes me to yellow pages or something similar. I'm on my 5th anti-virus search for the thing and no good.
BTW, I think I got a virus on my computer. Well I know I do. I blame searching for that perfect pic
. I have no idea but it's some redirect virus so every time I do a google search and click on the link it takes me to yellow pages or something similar. I'm on my 5th anti-virus search for the thing and no good.
08-03-2011 | 07:41 AM
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Well that's no fun, what did T say?
BTW, I think I got a virus on my computer. Well I know I do. I blame searching for that perfect pic. I have no idea but it's some redirect virus so every time I do a google search and click on the link it takes me to yellow pages or something similar. I'm on my 5th anti-virus search for the thing and no good.
BTW, I think I got a virus on my computer. Well I know I do. I blame searching for that perfect pic
. I have no idea but it's some redirect virus so every time I do a google search and click on the link it takes me to yellow pages or something similar. I'm on my 5th anti-virus search for the thing and no good.
08-03-2011 | 07:49 AM
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08-03-2011 | 07:55 AM
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From: 767er Captain
Well that's no fun, what did T say?
BTW, I think I got a virus on my computer. Well I know I do. I blame searching for that perfect pic. I have no idea but it's some redirect virus so every time I do a google search and click on the link it takes me to yellow pages or something similar. I'm on my 5th anti-virus search for the thing and no good.
BTW, I think I got a virus on my computer. Well I know I do. I blame searching for that perfect pic
. I have no idea but it's some redirect virus so every time I do a google search and click on the link it takes me to yellow pages or something similar. I'm on my 5th anti-virus search for the thing and no good.Seriously, sorry to hear you got troubles.. good luck with it.
08-03-2011 | 07:59 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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From: Light Chop
I live on the edge because you know, that stuff just slows you down. Gets in the way. You can't enjoy your time. It's not as much fun. And it costs money. Too much money for the amount of time I'd use it.
I'm taking about Norton Anti-virus and the like. I'm committed to free anti virus stuff. This isn't a new virus from what I read, just been redone to be better and people say nothing finds it and in my experience that's true.
08-03-2011 | 08:06 AM
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Uh...I think you know that your logic is beyond suspect. The ATI pilots will be getting a $50K+ a year pay increase, if not more, from what I can tell. Even hinting that somehow compares to a "one cent" raise is like saying there is no difference between McDonald's and a kid's lemonade stand. After all they both make money selling food and drink, do they not? Disclaimer: I'm not equating the ATI pilots with the lemonade stand, just the silly $.01 analogy
As for the "airframe" argument: that would have merit if SWA got the planes without the pilots; with this acquisition they do get the planes, but planes that are already pre-staffed with pilots to go with them. No "windfall" there. The ATI pilots get a large pay increase just for doing the exact same thing they were doing before. SWA pilots don't.
As for the "airframe" argument: that would have merit if SWA got the planes without the pilots; with this acquisition they do get the planes, but planes that are already pre-staffed with pilots to go with them. No "windfall" there. The ATI pilots get a large pay increase just for doing the exact same thing they were doing before. SWA pilots don't.
Herk;
I dont understand why you cant reconcile T's point. All fun and game southwest bashing aside, they have done very well as a company. It has taken time, but they have done very well. AT has also done well, but maybe not as well as SWA financially, but they have grown, their upgrades are not stagnant, they have a decent route structure: IOW, they didnt suck.
All the AT F/O's regardless of seniority (this includes the guys who delayed upgrade as a QOL issue, but who could hold captain) go behind all the SW FOs for upgrade for 9 yrs.
The pay differential T used is a little extreme, but it is to prove a point. Lets face it, as a W-2 employee, we trade pieces of our lives for dollars when we come to work.
When does the pay differential count? If you say .01 vs 50k counts as enough differential, then does 2k vs 25k also count or 15k vs 16k? The point is, money today does not equal money tomorrow. Seniority today does equal seniority tomorrow.
I just wish them all well, because while it doesnt affect me personally today, it can affect me personally later.
08-03-2011 | 08:11 AM
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From: 777B
It wasn't.
I live on the edge because you know, that stuff just slows you down. Gets in the way. You can't enjoy your time. It's not as much fun. And it costs money. Too much money for the amount of time I'd use it.
I'm taking about Norton Anti-virus and the like. I'm committed to free anti virus stuff. This isn't a new virus from what I read, just been redone to be better and people say nothing finds it and in my experience that's true.
I live on the edge because you know, that stuff just slows you down. Gets in the way. You can't enjoy your time. It's not as much fun. And it costs money. Too much money for the amount of time I'd use it.
I'm taking about Norton Anti-virus and the like. I'm committed to free anti virus stuff. This isn't a new virus from what I read, just been redone to be better and people say nothing finds it and in my experience that's true.
Microsoft security essentials has vorked well for me and its a free download from microsoft...if you are on a pc.
08-03-2011 | 08:17 AM
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Herk;
I dont understand why you cant reconcile T's point. All fun and game southwest bashing aside, they have done very well as a company. It has taken time, but they have done very well. AT has also done well, but maybe not as well as SWA financially, but they have grown, their upgrades are not stagnant, they have a decent route structure: IOW, they didnt suck.
All the AT F/O's regardless of seniority (this includes the guys who delayed upgrade as a QOL issue, but who could hold captain) go behind all the SW FOs for upgrade for 9 yrs.
The pay differential T used is a little extreme, but it is to prove a point. Lets face it, as a W-2 employee, we trade pieces of our lives for dollars when we come to work.
When does the pay differential count? If you say .01 vs 50k counts as enough differential, then does 2k vs 25k also count or 15k vs 16k? The point is, money today does not equal money tomorrow. Seniority today does equal seniority tomorrow.
I just wish them all well, because while it doesnt affect me personally today, it can affect me personally later.
I dont understand why you cant reconcile T's point. All fun and game southwest bashing aside, they have done very well as a company. It has taken time, but they have done very well. AT has also done well, but maybe not as well as SWA financially, but they have grown, their upgrades are not stagnant, they have a decent route structure: IOW, they didnt suck.
All the AT F/O's regardless of seniority (this includes the guys who delayed upgrade as a QOL issue, but who could hold captain) go behind all the SW FOs for upgrade for 9 yrs.
The pay differential T used is a little extreme, but it is to prove a point. Lets face it, as a W-2 employee, we trade pieces of our lives for dollars when we come to work.
When does the pay differential count? If you say .01 vs 50k counts as enough differential, then does 2k vs 25k also count or 15k vs 16k? The point is, money today does not equal money tomorrow. Seniority today does equal seniority tomorrow.
I just wish them all well, because while it doesnt affect me personally today, it can affect me personally later.
Scambo,
That's a seriously good post.
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