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Old 08-03-2011 | 10:06 AM
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Just to add to the rumors. According to a Capt I flew with RA said in an LCA meeting that JB was a target. Even after the slot swap we are #2 in NYC and with slots given up by us and UCAL the feeling is the divestitures of slots would not ne great.

Also for the persistant USAir rules. The rumor is we have interest but only in the Philly operation. More about asset purchase the merger.

Discuss....
Old 08-03-2011 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rahc
Had a guy on the jumpseat that said they were pretty much done. Section 6 had some tweaking to do according to him.
I also had an A/A 767 captain on my jumpseat, about two weeks ago. He indicated that they were being told that they WOULD have a contract T/A by Labor Day. He'd been w/ A/A since 1985, and was not, it struck me, a B/S type. That rumor is coming from too many places simultaneously, to be 'just a rumor'.
Old 08-03-2011 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
It's been difficult to listen to alfaromeo, slowplay, pineapple etc slam the Seham law firm. I'm hoping we can take most of this to the DPA thread now that it is back in the Majors. But I really need to respond to just a portion of the non-stop garbage from our usual suspects.

Lee and Marty Seham run the firm that DPA is using for the card drive. They are an extremely sharp group of attorneys, and we are lucky to have them on our side as opposed to management having them. While it is currently fashionable to slam the Seham firm because they have been such a thorn in ALPA's side, I just thought some might enjoy this note to Marty Seham. It was from three pilots from Continental's old union. One of the signatures is that of John Prater...former president of ALPA.







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I thought you were the other Carl for a second.

You vilify Prator for the better part of the last year because he made 500K while President of ALPA. Now he's okay with you because he wrote a thank you note in the year 2000 to his lawyer and that supports your position?

Are you a good Prator or a bad Prator? Who's wearing the ruby slippers Carl?

BTW. Who keeps handwritten notes from 10 years ago! Talk about teenage-girl-keepsake-box-angst.

CAL got rid of them and the entire law firm keeps a hand written note as an endorsement of support? Give me a break. Law firms keep their record of wins as the endorsements, not thank you notes.

Ooops. You are right. I missed the first line where they gave him an engraved brass plate. Isn't that another issue you have? Engraving costs, right?

Let's look more at the note. What generosity did the Seehams show the CAL pilots that got them their new found quality of life?

What does that mean? What law firm operates on generosity?

How much generosity are they showing TC and friends in their non-profit entity?

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Old 08-03-2011 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by caddis
Just to add to the rumors. According to a Capt I flew with RA said in an LCA meeting that JB was a target. Even after the slot swap we are #2 in NYC and with slots given up by us and UCAL the feeling is the divestitures of slots would not ne great.

Also for the persistant USAir rules. The rumor is we have interest but only in the Philly operation. More about asset purchase the merger.

Discuss....
I never heard him say that in any of the LCA meetings I went to. But I do have ADD... so you never know.
Old 08-03-2011 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I never heard him say that in any of the LCA meetings I went to. But I do have ADD... so you never know.
Jet Blue is probably a "target" but not for us. Someone over there deserves credit for making that outfit even survive, much less thrive. Who would have thought a low cost carrier could make it at high cost JFK with all the issues that facility has? Current market valuations of the legacy carriers make it "expensive" to go shopping right now. With the bufoonery in Washington and Lufthansia's not so good scope, it would not surprise me a lot to see Jet Blue gobbled up by a European carrier. With the onslaught coming to Europe from the Middle Eastern carriers and the relative health of the US domestic market, it would probably make sense for European carriers to try to lock in a feed and revenue stream.

I wonder if Delta could have saved a couple of billion building a new terminal if they had waited to make a hostile offer for American's terminal in bankruptcy. It would be just our luck to see that property on the Court House steps in May 2013.
Old 08-03-2011 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
Pretty bold statement to stand on there sailing.

Want to bet your life on it?

OK. I'll be realistic. How about your 401K?

Not very many in ALPA presently will agree to bail ALPA out of this mess if there is an assessment to cover what insurance won't/can't pick up.

Game over in that scenario.
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Uggggh! The lawyer you have hired to represent you in divorce proceedings subsequently begins representing your ex as well. That doesn't make you too happy. But then, he comes asking you for money because he is being sued by the last guy whose case he lost. Now THAT would make you angry!
Old 08-03-2011 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by caddis
Just to add to the rumors. According to a Capt I flew with RA said in an LCA meeting that JB was a target. Even after the slot swap we are #2 in NYC and with slots given up by us and UCAL the feeling is the divestitures of slots would not ne great.

Also for the persistant USAir rules. The rumor is we have interest but only in the Philly operation. More about asset purchase the merger.

Discuss....
Heard from a CA, who was an LCA....probability of happening = 0.0001%

The stuff the guy who pumps the fuel said has better odds.

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Old 08-03-2011 | 10:54 AM
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Maybe American management will give their pilots a huge industry leading contract knowing its going to file bankruptcy and negate the contract anyhow. American management might be hoping Delta gets stuck with a large pilot contract and no way to negate it.

This scenario would be fine by me. It's been played out before.
Old 08-03-2011 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
".......How about an 80% pay raise?"
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
.....This is now the second time I have heard this 15% figure, and from 2 different LECs......
You both could be right.......
Old 08-03-2011 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
When Continental pilots decided to rejoin ALPA, they had no need for their own legal firm since they were now getting ALPA's "best and brightest."

Typical that you would ignore the accolades bestowed upon the Seham firm by the former ALPA president John Prater. How do you explain such a note Pineapple Guy?

Carl
So the Continental pilots fired Seham and joined ALPA, the APA pilots fired Seham and hired ALPA. Great endorsements.

Seham's failed the AMFA, Seham has failed USAPA (bottom of the industry) so obviously he's the choice for DPA, a lawyer who is on record stating that seniority is always subject to collective bargaining. No hidden agenda there.

I hear that Seham collects $57K/week from USAPA, I'm sure he's chomping on the bit to get significantly more from DPA.
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