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Old 08-08-2011 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Umm, what are the former FedEx and SWA consultants and retired labor negotiators telling the WSJ? Nothing like Terry. I know from experience, a few "placed" op-eds from management or publishers can signal future positions. I really hope this isn't DAL management trying to proactively head off our expectations.

"No buck, no Buck Rogers seems about right to me." There wouldn't be an NFL without football players, there wouldn't be an MLB without baseball players...imagine an airline without pilots?
Buzz, you know that the airlines would love to have airlines without pilots!
Old 08-08-2011 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Umm, what are the former FedEx and SWA consultants and retired labor negotiators telling the WSJ? Nothing like Terry. I know from experience, a few "placed" op-eds from management or publishers can signal future positions. I really hope this isn't DAL management trying to proactively head off our expectations.

"No buck, no Buck Rogers seems about right to me." There wouldn't be an NFL without football players, there wouldn't be an MLB without baseball players...imagine an airline without pilots?

More importantly: Imagine Delta without pilot givebacks. My personal contribution to Delta is in excess of $350,000 straight pay, not including retirement and work rules and other benefits.

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Old 08-08-2011 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Gus Grissom: The issue here is monkey.

John Glenn: What?

Gus Grissom: Us. We are the monkey.

Deke Slayton: What Gus is saying is that were missing the point.
What Gus is saying is that we all heard the rumors that they want
to send a monkey up first. Well, none of us wants to think that
theyre gonna send a monkey up to do a mans work. But what Gus is
saying is that what they're trying to do to us is send a man up to
do a monkeys work. Us, a bunch of college-trained chimpanzees!

Gus Grissom: Fu#€in A, bubba.

Deke Slayton: Alright, so what Gus is saying is that we've got to
change things around here. He's saying that we are pilots. And we
know more about what we need to fly this thing than anybody else.
So what we have to do is to alter the experiment. And what that
comes down to is who is gonna control this thing from here on out.

Gordon Cooper: What Gus is saying here is that weve got to stick
together on this deal.

IOW, they unionized.
Old 08-08-2011 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Umm, what are the former FedEx and SWA consultants and retired labor negotiators telling the WSJ? Nothing like Terry. I know from experience, a few "placed" op-eds from management or publishers can signal future positions. I really hope this isn't DAL management trying to proactively head off our expectations.

"No buck, no Buck Rogers seems about right to me." There wouldn't be an NFL without football players, there wouldn't be an MLB without baseball players...imagine an airline without pilots?
Two things:

First, it seems to me if DALPA wants to fight a Terry mindset all they need to do is ask "hey, do you like what we've got going here? You know, DAL+DALPA forever? Because they think we're in bed with you and they're trying to vote us out. So unless you want the DPA representing the pilots I hope you get your act together, shutup, and start capitulating."
I won't hold my breath.
Second, equal pay for equal work. There is no reason why Delta should be paying its female and minority pilots $50,000 sometimes $60,000 LESS than Southwest is paying their pilots to do the same job.

Now Terry, have times changed? Absolutely. Nobody is willing these days watch a company, whether its based in the South or not, pay it's female and minority pilots HALF of what a smaller discount airline is more than willing to pay it's pilots FOR THE SAME JOB.

Shame.
Old 08-08-2011 | 06:02 AM
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Can someone tell me or direct me in the direction to; if I try and pick up a trip off the swap board do I have to put in a slip or can I just hit the P/U button? Also, since I'm on RES with those days off does that go towards my 70 hours or is it above guarantee?

Thanks,
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Old 08-08-2011 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey
Can someone tell me or direct me in the direction to; if I try and pick up a trip off the swap board do I have to put in a slip or can I just hit the P/U button? Also, since I'm on RES with those days off does that go towards my 70 hours or is it above guarantee?

Thanks,
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No picking up trips on reserve, only "regular" pilots can pick up from the swap board. Only thing you can do on reserve is "yellow slip" a preference for a trip you may get the next day or put in a green slip to fly on your days off.
Old 08-08-2011 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey
Can someone tell me or direct me in the direction to; if I try and pick up a trip off the swap board do I have to put in a slip or can I just hit the P/U button? Also, since I'm on RES with those days off does that go towards my 70 hours or is it above guarantee?

Thanks,
SW
You'll do much better getting contractual advice from the committee corner of the DALPA website.

That said, as a reserve you do not have the ability to pick up time off the swap board. You are limited to the various "slips."
Old 08-08-2011 | 06:22 AM
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Delta Air Lines upgraded to Buy from Hold at Capstone - Yahoo! Finance

Delta Air Lines upgraded to Buy from Hold at Capstone

Companieselta Air Lines Inc.
On Monday August 8, 2011, 7:14 am EDT
Capstone upgraded Delta Air Lines based on valuation. Price target is $9.
DAL currently sitting at 6.66
Old 08-08-2011 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey
Can someone tell me or direct me in the direction to; if I try and pick up a trip off the swap board do I have to put in a slip or can I just hit the P/U button? Also, since I'm on RES with those days off does that go towards my 70 hours or is it above guarantee?

Thanks,
SW
Originally Posted by slowplay
You'll do much better getting contractual advice from the committee corner of the DALPA website.

That said, as a reserve you do not have the ability to pick up time off the swap board. You are limited to the various "slips."
SW, there is a document on the dalpa website called CA 09-12. Put it in the search engine and it'll find it. It's not completely up to date as there are a few MOUs that have been added but there is a lot of information in the 1100 page PDF. Best part you can keyword search through not only the contract but also through the layman's version of the contract from contract awareness bulletins to stuff like when scheduling calls, PBS guides, documents designed to help PMNWA (and a majority of PMDAL) pilots understand the DAL contract plus a lot of other documents focused on reserve.
Old 08-08-2011 | 06:48 AM
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boog, slow and ftb,

Thank you for the info, still trying to digest all the info out there and where to find it!

SW
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