Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 612593)

, ACL! Your silence is deafening. I have no other choice but to try to draw you out.

I think I am anxious about trying to stay based in DTW, because if the company moves the -9's, who know where I can go. So, when I had a few free moments, I came up with a prediction of what A/C would be in what bases in a year or two. Here what I came up with. I didn't take the time to try to separate the 7ER, 75/76 or the -300/-400 or whatever it's called. ACL, feel free to shoot it down. Aloha~

NYC
777
330
737
M88

ATL
Everything
Including the -400, 330's and the DC-9

CVG
76/75
320
M88

DTW
-400
777
330
76/75
320
DC-9

MSP
330
76/75
M88/90
320
DC-9

MEM
320
M88
DC-9

SLC
76/75
320
M88

SEA
76/75
737 (Depending on what happens with Alaska)

LAX
777
76/75
737

HNL
747-400
76/75

Personally, I don't see how MEM and CVG make it. But, wouldn't be surprised if something in Texas opened back up. Are you happy now, Super? :)

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 612780)

With the current marketing plan NYC will keep the 7ER and add the 767-400 next spring. Aircraft that are projected to be around less then 4 years after SOC will most likely not see major basing changes but will see the flying shifted. This would most likely be the DC9 however could include the 747-400.
One small interesting sidenote. Boeing is pitching the 747-800 as a replacement for the 400's. Not sure if Delta has any real interest but I unders tand they are making a great offer. They are desperate to sell the passenger version of that airframe to someone and get the ball rolling.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 612780)

With the current marketing plan NYC will keep the 7ER and add the 767-400 next spring. Aircraft that are projected to be around less then 4 years after SOC will most likely not see major basing changes but will see the flying shifted. This would most likely be the DC9 however could include the 747-400.
One small interesting sidenote. Boeing is pitching the 747-800 as a replacement for the 400's. Not sure if Delta has any real interest but I unders tand they are making a great offer. They are desperate to sell the passenger version of that airframe to someone and get the ball rolling.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 612792)

Sailing that is correct. They are also talking about basing the 765 in NYC. The SEA 330's will come to ATL as will many of the 744's from DTW and MSP. 777's will move north.
They are still debating rebasing the 744 guys.
As for the 748, it is on the table. If they make a good offer we might get a few. BA is doing what they can to make us a long term customer. They just need to budge a little more.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 612815)

Thanks ACL65, but why would they want to make DTW an RJ mecca? Isn't it a valuable international base?

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 612831)

Johnso, I think that was when people actually lived there. With this economy and the car industry crash, I'd argue that there's more business elsewhere. RJs can connect to the busier hubs at JFK, SEA and LAX. Other midwest travelers can fly through MSP and CVG.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 612841)

As it relates to DTW. Their words not mine. I am assuming that the yield will go up when they take seats out of given markets. I am sure there will always be some bigger lift there, but it is the narrow body domestic lift that we are referring to.
Remember that with this merger they will be able to offer MSP, NYC,CVG, LAX, SEA, ATL, and SLC international connections to the non O and D out of DTW. As you stated there is not much O and D there so it is easy to shift where people connect out of. It also allows them to offer more international flights to more cities out of less gateways. What that means is less seats system wide to given markets and greater pricing power on remaining seats.

Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 612717)

Delta Technologies: Bringing you yesterdays technology tomorrow. ;)