I think the fear of lawsuits is a heck of a deterrent to furloughing until of course we hit SOC.

So in the interim, let me be very clear. I heard from a source :D in a corner office on the 4th floor in Atlanta that they will be shifting flying around such that they furlough a disproportinate number of DAL-N pilots. So just threaten those lawsuits for as long as possible please, we here on the bottom, appreciate it. ;)

Now, in the interim, can I get some good gouge on the DC-9, the plane that beyond belief outlived NWA and probably will outlive the 747-400 :eek:, and/or gouge from I guess any of the DCIs or those Cessna 208 Caravans flying Atlanta-Athens. Ugh... I always hated those underpowered chinsy ice collectors, its a shame it looks like a good airplane like the C172.
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I'm not saying this with any pride whatsoever, but I kind of have found that sometimes airliners.net's (the seedy underground world of airline porn) has a thread with news I hadn't seen elsewhere. Usually the title is good enough, sometimes if its DAL related I'll read through it to learn more because there are some DAL people who evidently spill too much on there much to the chagrin of revenue management. But here is a new thread on DAL & the DC-9. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/4445285/ Might not have any info, but for some it might be interesting.

Speaking of lawsuits, can I sue the company to get my full 60% FAE pension back? (There. That will scare 'em.) :rolleyes:

Yea LAX 7ER - B

Just got back from LIH and heading to HNL manana. Someone's got to do it :confused:

What happened to our rock solid 2 yr furlough protection that started ticking Oct 08 that we agreed to in the merger then supposedly strengthened a few months ago when we gave away some scope. I don't see force majeure being declared legally over swine flu or high gas prices which we have now hedged for. The problem is that I have seen no definition of force majeure (help) in the contract. It better get real bad for DAL to furlough. I hear from older guys that the only thing FP on paper in the contract is good for is TP when you run out. If thats the case then the union should not even include it in the contract. Its just a con to get the new guy vote.

And what word did Jim teach Pam to say whenever Dwight asks her if "she's in?"

"Absolutely."

Re-read my post ACL. I didn't say "heavies" I say the relative "heaviness" of the South guys versus the North guys. In other words, South guys are more staffed for the amount of flying they do versus the North guys.

What does that mean?

Let me ask you this: Remember when the South guys were lamenting the North's lousy airplanes that were all going away and how this would unfairly affect South guys? What if I would have said, "Don't worry, when the North airplanes go, we'll just shift some South flying to the North in order to balance things out for when the furloughs start? Besides man, it just makes sense. What would your opinion have been of such a statement? Would you have preferred to just "stand together" in order to not fall into management's trap?

I know you're just thinking out loud, but man that was an unbelievably stupid thing for you to have voiced.

Carl

Well, we are in this together now. A week ago it was anticipated 747 displacements and now it is anticipated 767 displacements. On Virginia Avenue they aren't thinking North or South, they are matching capacity to demand and revenue. In their opinion, our job is to complete the mission, where ever it happens to be on whatever they need to fly. They expect us to do that job and have neither the inclination to hear our concerns about out personal problems, nor a sympathetic ear.

We made the deal and we voted on it. It is what it is. Time for us to get up at the crack of dawn, get the airplane ready to go and fly the thing. Here comes the real work of the merger.

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If they post some big combined bid prior to SOC and then SOC is delayed, they could have gigantic problems with training and conversion. Whatever upside might result from a combined bid would be overshadowed by the tremendous risks involved./quote]


The company will not offer the joint AE unless then are confident that SOC will occur as stated...when you see a combines AE, SOC is not far behind.

[quote=sevenfiveseven;627851]Yeah, certain just like Nairobi...:(:(

Heyas FtB,

The DC-9 has been a running gag at Airliners.net since the thing was started. The DC-9s will get parked when they reach their aft bulkhead cycle limit....102,000 cycles. Alot of the -30s, and ALL of the -40s and -50s have YEARS left to go until they even get close to their cycle limit.

The LAST cycle will be a revenue flight, and then they'll ferry it, unpressurized, to the scrap yard. Unless they do the aft bulkhead mod, which, if I was at the bottom of the list, I'd certainly be praying that they do. I'd certainly rather be a DC-9 FO at DAL than a E-175 Captain at CPZ.

Word is that DAL Engineering is moving from ATL, into the facilities at MSP, thus the push to renovate buildings B and C (just announced, BTW).

%70 N1. That's the only power setting you need to know on the DC-9. Just roll it downhill, let the clutch out, fly a 300 heading, and you're on the way to Lancing or Sioux Falls.

Honestly guys...RJ wonders might NEED that FMS, GPS, moving maps and EGPWS to keep it out of the weeds, but hey, this is the "Big D", right? Like Super said, man up already.

Nu