Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 627632)

There are no jobs out there. There is nothing us junior folks can do about it so why worry about it? Sh!t happens. Hopefully we don't furlough, but there are worse things in life than getting furloughed.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 627636)

Everything is oversold. The problem is we are practically giving the seats away.

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 627511)

Some people are going to be ****ed off their whole life, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Nu

Originally Posted by Flying (Post 627561)

With all the fear in the air, as a new guy I'd expect the Union to put some calming or at least informative news out in a Fastread, Highspeedalert, or SuperQuickmail. Something that spells out the Company's options, flow possibilities, and general reactions to the Company's public statements. Isn't that what some of the dues money is for? That way we wouldn't have to get it ALL from ACL. Seems like DALPA has been strangely silent about this. Or are they not wanting to give mgt any "F" ideas? :)

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 627674)

Exactly. I've been flying nothing but red eyes to the east coast from LAX. Every flight is full. No non-revs, just paying pax. If we're not making money, what are we asking for fares?

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 627511)

Heyas,

If I recally correctly, there was part of the CPZ agreement with NWA that prohibited the sale of CPZ until there were 10 or more DC-9 replacements on the NWA property. Does anyone know if that survived in the JPWA?

Also, in another dark chapter of NWA relations, the company PROCESSED every letter of resignation that they received from furloughees. Some of the junior folks tried to get NWALPA to work something out with management, but some senior sh!ts refused to budge on it, taking the view "no one helped me out when I was furloughed, so deal with it".

Some people are going to be ****ed off their whole life, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Nu

Originally Posted by bigdaddie (Post 627692)

Hey buzzpat,
You keeping those CA's in line? I know you kicked my a.. :D

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 627629)

Also, if they cannot do that, they can shift flying from NWA to DAL which they are doing to balance them out and furlough in order of the Arbitrated list using the pre-merger lists. In effect it can be done!

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 627710)

Wow. If that happens, that would be incredible. We North guys have known for some time that our staffing was skinnier than the South side. The North side was given no credit for that in the SLI, because the arbitration team didn't think that would be fair. Now you say there's a possibility that the relative "heaviness" on the South side could be "balanced" by shifting North flying to the South so that we could furlough from the pre-merger lists in order to better "balance" the furloughs.

Yikes.

If that happened, you can COUNT on an arbitration suit from the North side IMO.

Carl