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acl65pilot 06-12-2009 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 627427)
Seriously though, why would DAL accept a resignation letter from a furloughed pilot who was just trying to find a job elsewhere while furloughed and had to "resign his seniority" at DAL as a condition of employment?

I do not know. I know that a few pilots accepted jobs at other places that had to do it, and are back.
I also understand that if there was a policy to do what you are proposing, they would not even look at you.

acl65pilot 06-12-2009 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 627428)
How about if they are in the form of a copy of the Seniority List Arbitration Award with G F Y, YGTBSM, K M A in large letters on it. I think they'd probably go ahead and process that letter.

I keed, I keed. Darn, there goes my management job .... .

WOW must have had a good morning there Bar!

Bucking Bar 06-12-2009 10:43 AM

That was actually my wife's idea of a joke while I was getting a Coke (I mean soda).

I'm just hoping by the time this thread hits 1,000 pages all current users are discussing how good their First Officers are on 787's, 777's and 747-8's.

acl65pilot 06-12-2009 10:47 AM

Maybe 2000. We put 20 pages on yesterday.

Superdad 06-12-2009 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 627429)
I do not know. I know that a few pilots accepted jobs at other places that had to do it, and are back.
I also understand that if there was a policy to do what you are proposing, they would not even look at you.

Not true, I know many AA furloughees who got flying jobs elsewhere even though it was widely known that AA would not accept a forced resignation letter from a furloughee.

Even still, why not put your furloughees minds at ease and let them know on their way out the door that there will be a job waiting for them when the time comes.

I guess thats why I am not in management!

acl65pilot 06-12-2009 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 627442)
Not true, I know many AA furloughees who got flying jobs elsewhere even though it was widely known that AA would not accept a forced resignation letter from a furloughee.

Even still, why not put your furloughees minds at ease and let them know on their way out the door that there will be a job waiting for them when the time comes.

I guess that's why I am not in management!

I can assure you that management would love it. It is the lawyers that control everything.

Any company that has in-house council is of a legal mind.

alfaromeo 06-12-2009 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 627303)
Correct, but the company and ALPA can agree to do an earlier AE. It could be sold as furlough mitigation.

What is going on with this? I know you know something.

All I know is that even though they have a plan on when SOC is going to occur, they are dealing with the FAA and the government and they can be enormously unreliable. Witness what happened with Homeland Security and the Nairobi flights.

If they post some big combined bid prior to SOC and then SOC is delayed, they could have gigantic problems with training and conversion. Whatever upside might result from a combined bid would be overshadowed by the tremendous risks involved.

I think the biggest advantage to the company would be spreading out the freighter displacements over a bigger pie. My opinion is that more DAL-N pilots will be enticed by the PRIP program so it will probably cancel out.

No insider knowledge, just my two cents.

acl65pilot 06-12-2009 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 627475)
All I know is that even though they have a plan on when SOC is going to occur, they are dealing with the FAA and the government and they can be enormously unreliable. Witness what happened with Homeland Security and the Nairobi flights.

If they post some big combined bid prior to SOC and then SOC is delayed, they could have gigantic problems with training and conversion. Whatever upside might result from a combined bid would be overshadowed by the tremendous risks involved.

I think the biggest advantage to the company would be spreading out the freighter displacements over a bigger pie. My opinion is that more DAL-N pilots will be enticed by the PRIP program so it will probably cancel out.

No insider knowledge, just my two cents.

Makes sense. But I think that there is more in play here.

forgot to bid 06-12-2009 11:53 AM

So, if the current PIRPS are not "furlough preventive" then I think there needs to be a PIRP that is.

Bucking Bar 06-12-2009 11:55 AM

Alpha - there was a last minute threat to the Nairobi flights and Homeland Security and Delta together made the right decision, IMHO. Remember Somalia is right next door up the A3 road.

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