Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1039999)

I get that the over all AK code share feeds our network and I also get that it wouldn't work to instantly capacity dump an entire duplicate route system with our own planes. Some of the stuff they do is truly niche like flying that we would never do especially at the mainline. But the code share over all is flat out being abused. CBA compliant? Sure, unfortunately. But we should prioritize making appropriate changes in C12K that reigns in the abuse. Some of their flying we can clearly be doing ourselves. The code share we allowed provides too much leeway and its time to reign it in.

I wonder if we have to "meet and confer" with AK if we tighten up that code share too?

Originally Posted by rahc (Post 1039962)

Anyone know how to book your own front end deviation DH? Just spoke with the scheduler and he said that we do it ourselves now.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1040145)

As of two days ago, the scheduler told me to go to travelnet and book it under company business.

Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1040096)

^^^^^ Agreed 100%. While I was reading this report, I had to keep scrolling to the top to remember whether it came from management or our union. It's management's job to take the leeway our PWA gives them and make a profit. It's our union's job to improve our pay, QOL, etc and prevent management from taking advantage of us. I don't need my union selling me on the profitability of something that keeps my QOL from improving.

I'm not sure I was here when the hard sell came from ALPA on "Trust us, RJs will be good for Delta and thus they will be good for you." But, I bet it read A LOT like this codeshare analysis piece.

Hopefully everyone noticed how much farther this thing could go before coming anywhere near the allowed PWA limits. I remember seeing 5-30% seats where the contract allows 50%. We had better hope they don't get widebodies.

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1040192)

The most telling point of the whole Alaska piece was when they talk about the fierce loyalty Alaska high Value customers have for Alaska. Delta high value customers show no such loyalty - I wonder why? :confused:

Scoop

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1040216)

We suck. That's why they outsource.

We're the pilots of an airline that flies passengers but evidently in our core competency we pilots suck at what we do and they want someone else to do it whether it's having a near same size fleet of regionals on the low end, Alaska in middle or AF/KLM heavies on the top.

We're not very good. That's why we should temper our expectations and go with the flow on scope and be constructive engagers who are quiet team players who know their place is at the bottom of the totem poll.

We're simply a liability asset required by law.

You know who is really good at being airline pilots? FedEx and Southwest pilots. That's why they get so much money. But we're not in their league, that's why we're not comparable.

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1040138)

Parochial on my part? Sure. As I slide down the seniority ladder and see Jerry Garcia tails flying in and out of the places we used to fly frequently, it sucks. We COULD be doing that flying and we SHOULD be doing that flying. Let's get it back!

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1040244)

All good points FTB;

We do suck. We suck so bad and we know it, thats why the union puts out the AK codeshare agreement paper, patting us on the head. "You're a good boy Delta pilot, you can't run fast, you're spastic, and you wear coke bottle glasses, but you are cute -- C'mere let me pat you on the head.

Kudos to the DAL pilots for accepting reality. Kudos will pay the bills. Remain calm all is well.