I don't think a single American would have a problem with reigning in the insanely too lavish Congressional gravy train. The problem is its getting us unified enough that we can force the issue at the ballot box to get people in power to vote for their own pay cuts. Cause we can't do it directly.

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Cheerleaders photos - Sports Illustrated photo galleries - SI.com

"HOLD THE LINE!!!" (this quote was repeated in much more than just a few of our own WARFIGHTERS during firefights over time). It's about time we start adopting the same principle! Isn't it worth it?

Super - Isn't that basically what is happening?

Scoop

Alaska Code Share
 

This is a totally losing proposition for the DAL Pilots. Well written piece, by a great guy but it does not change the fact that we are being hosed.

But according to the report the Alaska high Value customers are extremely loyal to Alaska. Yeah, no ****. How can we expect the DAL customers to show the same kind of loyalty when domestically there is a 50% chance our customers won't even fly on DAL. Burn these folks a few times with "connection service" and of course they are going to have zero loyalty to DAL.

Hell, it seems to me management would rather be a a travel agency or a "system" then an airline. I guess management is just admitting that if we competed head to head with Alaska we would lose. But I thought we were the premeir business airline in the world? Yeah, I forgot only on routes that we have zero competition.

But AS had guys on furlough - DAL Pilots are so much better off - didn't you see the growth numbers in the propaganda, errr, I mean the report. Yeah but the numbers that stand out are the 25 firm growth aircraft orders for Alaska - as we continue to park aircraft and get some replacement MD-90s. If we were growing proportionally to Alaska we would have almost 200 "growth" aircraft on order. Pretty depressing.

Scoop :cool:

hold the line!!!

Sadly, I suspect most of the Capts and those that don't live in the west coast won't even know the significance of the AS code, and how it affects our livelihood.

As far as the letter issue on icrew... Caps lock is your friend! Always use caps lock whenever entering in any letters and you're good to go.

The pdf reader hasnt worked out well for the manuals for me... Im going to try what was suggested earlier.

Pro cheerleaders..:rolleyes:

OK, but look at it this way. Most of the DAL customers that they are carrying are coming off a TransPac flight, and connecting on a AS flight home. Our Transpac passenger emplacements are up significantly with this agreement, and the majority of them are from this code share agreement. (Go to the MEC roadshow and they will show you the exact numbers, but they are not suitable to be posted here)

Point is, yes, we want to all fly our own flying, and it irks pilots to no end to see another carrier grown while flying DAL customers, Duh! What was drilled in to my head and I finally accepted is that these customers, and routes that AS flies, are not generally profitable for DAL, or could not be sustained. So what we now see is a flight by AS that gets a customer to a DAL flight that if we flew it and did not have the code share would not be flown by us. Simply put, it sustains our TransPac flights, so much so, that we are at the point in a few stations of adding frequency.

We can talk about the HI and BOS flights from SEA and PDX, as well as the 15 flights they took out of LA all day long. I agree with you, it stinks, and yes, the wording of that Code Share is way too lax, but there is a benefit for the DAL pilot.

With regard to the percentage to the bottom line. 5% v 1%. Go look at the total revenues of each company and then divide that out. 5% is significant, and is probably half their pilot contract, but also remember that they are a relatively small company. DAL on the other had is a 32 billion dollar company. What this shows me is most of the passengers we fly on the Transpacs are booking on the AS site here in the US and the DAL site when originating in Asia. This shows you were the customers are originally from.

I would also suspect that the only way to get rid of this code share is though an acquisition, which has a greater chance of effecting seniority and flying opportunities that a code share.