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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1046315)

So, we got the pilots through the flow through (slowly), but not the airplanes. Great deal.

Speaking of slowly, are we still waiting on slowplay?

We are.......

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1046334)

We are.......

Great. I'm not even saying it's his fault. But, if he has information to change my perception, I would love to hear it.

Come back Slow......

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1045230)

As one of a small group of Delta pilots who did the 5 full years on the B scale I have one word for you. NEVER!!!!!!

We already have a B scale and it's OFF THE LIST". An RJ B scale on the list is WAY superior. I agree we should fight to get it all on list AND full pay and bennies. But if we can't/won't then a B scale is far superior to what we have.

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1046342)

Technically, we're all on the B scale as far as inflation is concerned from the prior B-scale.

The regionals are C-Dish....

But we're too good for that, right?

Nah...I'll go easy tonight.

Nu

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1046315)

Speaking of slowly, are we still waiting on slowplay?

I guess it's theoretically possible that Slow is actually flying a trip rather than sitting on FPL for "expectation management" duties.

Heh, yeah, I know, pretty wild theory.

Alien abduction, then? :D

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1046324)

Swellbar wasnt a nagging FA, he would just click his heels together then storm out in a diva huff.:rolleyes:

That explains it. I'm the one that got him to hate pilots.

Guess he didn't appreciate my question to him of: "How's the wife and kids?"

Carl

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Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1046415)

He made a promise to himself that the next time he was called out on something that he didn't get absolutely correct, especially by a potential donuteer, he would pick up a trip.:eek:

For premium pay...of course.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1046072)

THAT was part of the JCBA that the fNWA guys had no hand in crafting. That was the way it was going to be, period.

Had the fDAL negotiators NOT given that away (and it was GIVEN away), we'd either still have CPZ or we'd have our DC-9 replacements.

I'll be back late tonight when I have more time, but I see nobody from the assembled forum wisdom has challenged this divisive, revisionist tripe.

The ENTIRE fNWA NC was in NYC for over a month working on the pre-merger announcement JCBA. Much of the fNWA committee structure (including Comm, R&I, and CA) was in NYC, eventually to be joined by the entire fNWA MEC. By late February a JCBA had been agreed to by the 3 parties, but there was no SLI, so no deal. Much of that same process was repeated in March, then the entire process was repeated again in June. Section 1 of the DAL PWA was substantially altered by the JCBA to include things like the fNWA Alaska code share, Compass, and the new agreement tightened permitted aircraft limits compared to the previous stand alone DAL and NWA contracts.

If I reversed the names above and said had the fNWA negotiators not given away CPZ we wouldn't have this problem, that the fDAL guys had no hand in crafting the language...how would that read? While the DAL PWA provided the framework for the JOINT CBA, the JCBA was a document that underwent at least 3 different sets of negotiations, was ratified by two separate MEC's and was voted on by 2 separate pilot groups.

That this forum allows this kind of stuff to stand unchallenged for 3 pages, yet wonders where's my response...:mad: Sometimes you guys need to look in a mirror, imo.

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Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 993927)

There were more protections in the Compass thing than survived the merger. There was a narrowbody floor and provisions that Compass could not be sold until there was a 100 seat replacement on the mainline property. Obviously that could have been used for leverage by the joint MCs, but why it wasn't I will leave to your imagination.

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 352544)

Our narrowbody floor gets set on the 3rd of April. That being said, there are enough loopholes for the company to drive through that the floor is essentially meaningless in my opinion. I don't think either pilot group has scope worth bragging about, especially compared to what we had pre-bankruptcy.