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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1055733)

Also, why was there no post-crash explosion and fire? Even with a small amount gasoline on board, there should have been.

Carl

I thought about that too, is it regular fuel or is it something else they run?

Thanks Johnso,
After talking to IT, you can designate a 4 number pin via Icrew or Ecrew under personnel. You were faster than IT!

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Originally Posted by Wingnutdal (Post 1055794)

Thanks Johnso,
After talking to IT, you can designate a 4 number pin via Icrew or Ecrew under personnel. You were faster than IT!

Glad I could help, and that you got it squared away quickly. :D

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1055728)

I think your assessment is probably correct. What I don't understand is why the loss of just the trim tab would cause full deflection UP on the elevator which is what would have been required to produce 9 to 10 G's? Also, he didn't GLOC instantly because he radioed a mayday after he went vertical. Since GLOC produces nearly instantaneous unconsciousness, it seems to point to something else.

Carl

There is some question about the Mayday call. Some say he made one others say no call was made. The speeds they are flying the race at are faster then the 51 was designed to fly. They are almost full nose down trim at those speeds. If the tab comes off the nose up moment is huge at those speeds. The last time it happened in Reno I believe it was a 10 g pitchup. The pilot managed to get it under control and land after the pitchup.

Go here and scroll down for a pic of the missing tab and a pic that appears to show the pilot was not awake just before impact.

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...t=76701&page=5

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1055799)

Got it. That makes sense.

Still curious about the lack of explosion and fire.

Carl

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Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1055747)

The irony....those are both fNWA birds....

Nu

Irony??????

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1055802)

Irony??????

What are you doing here? Aren't you watching FOOTBALL???? :D

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Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1055747)

The irony....those are both fNWA birds....

Nu

Is it sad that I recognized that 757 immediately as a 5500 series former NW bird without even looking at the tail # when I saw that picture?

Our former TW birds have the same door configs, but they are wingletted.

/NERD

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1055733)

Also, why was there no post-crash explosion and fire? Even with a small amount gasoline on board, there should have been.

Carl

There's one video where you see a puff of flame. He hit HARD. There is a small crater left from the impact, but everything else is just little tiny pieces.

If you go to airliners net, there's a streamed webcam that you can see. The aftermath is very very graphic, but it does put into perspective on what happened.

So incredibly sad. :(