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80ktsClamp 09-20-2011 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1056865)
It would only be if I got turned down by SWA and FDX. The Asia contracts are great and the money is really strong, but it's hard to also run a small business. FDX or SWA gives you really strong money with the time off to run a business. Best of both worlds.

Carl

Going to swa would be an incredibly stupid decision. They are where united was in 2001.... Add to that zero retirements!

tsquare 09-20-2011 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 1056859)
What about some of that contract flying offered in Asia? ANA is desperate for 767 CA...

How desperate?

scambo1 09-20-2011 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1056988)
How desperate?


Now that was funny!!!!!!!!!!!!

Express pilot 09-20-2011 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1056962)
Diversifying your income stream is just smart for your family. Just because guys can make money and sustain a life outside of this airline, does not mean that they will give up on the airline or the pilots that they work with. Big difference.

I cannot tell you how many pilots have not had a back up and end up with a career ending medical issue. They and their family are in deep trouble.

To respond to your assertion that I an "giving up" on this career, the answer is no. Heck I may run for rep again next fall. What I am doing is what any smart and prudent person would do, diversify. I had it when I lived in DFW, sold it because I wanted to be a hands on owner, and now am in a position to be a SB Owner once again.

There are many here that are looking to leave DAL, that is a fact. That fact and reality has happened recently, and it has not gone unnoticed by the leadership.

Don't worry, I will still be pain in everyone's side here at DAL. I rarely do anything without giving my all.

I like the sound of that better. I was getting the wrong vibe in the other posts. Just read you wrong.

Tab Flyer 09-20-2011 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1056833)
Hey quick question if anyone knows, anti-ice or de-ice on the Convairs, what did they use? I don't see boots and wiki doesn't have a whole lot of info. I'm assuming heated leading edges, but even on the pistons?

The 580 had hot leading edges using bleed air, air motor starters but only one acc gearbox powered mechanical blower for pressurization on the right engine. If you lost or shut down the right engine, you lost the cabin. It was only 4.25 psi, so out of ten you usually caught the cabin and had to lower the nose so as not to break eardrums. Up in Alaska we also would have to pull the power back at this point to not exceed VMO.

Bucking Bar 09-20-2011 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by fisherpilot (Post 1056975)
OK........... After reading some of the posts from yesterday I have to ask. The vibe I'm getting after reading them is that there are a good bit of guys that feel that they should have possibly gone somewhere else (namely Southwest or Fedex). I'm on the outside looking in but I have been working on finishing my college degree over the last few years working towards possibly trying to get on at Delta. Now I totally understand that no job is perfect no matter what. I'm wondering that if DAL had a contract close to what SWA has would that make "most" guys happy? I understand that the airline has shrunk over the years and no one likes that at all. I have to believe that Management would rather fill one 170+ seat airplane than several RJ's. I may be totally off here. I'm trying to figure out what it is that would make this the place that most want to retire from.

I know that I'm opening up a can of worms with this but I'd like to know what most think.

Sorry..

FedEx was only putting people in a pool when I got class dates from Delta and AirTran. I continued to update my FedEx profile, but got comfortable at Delta before they began taking people out of the pool. FedEx is a great company and the people there are terrific. FedEx might have been the better choice, but like ACL65 said, the Asia and Anchorage bases are not family friendly.

I'd like to hold on to my Delta seniority number just in case. But, if we start furloughing I'm going to try to get hired and go out on leave before they reach my number. We've got some guys who did that and are having a merry time at JetBlue and other carriers where they were able to get in the door early, then the airline grew.

Looking at our seniority list, it is easy to become the green eyed monster. Especially looking at those who are out on leave making a good military or JetBlue career, who will return to Delta when they can hold wide body Captain. IMHO, they were smarter, or luckier, than the rest of us.

hoserpilot 09-20-2011 06:34 AM

I've been bidding reserve, on purpose, for way too long. I screwed up and got a line next month. When can we start picking up open time for October? I tried just now and the icon to pick up a trip is not on the screen. I've checked out the dalpa library and the dlnet scheduling stuff and can't find a thing.

Thank,

Hoser

UncleSam 09-20-2011 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1057027)
I've been bidding reserve, on purpose, for way too long. I screwed up and got a line next month. When can we start picking up open time for October? I tried just now and the icon to pick up a trip is not on the screen. I've checked out the dalpa library and the dlnet scheduling stuff and can't find a thing.

Thank,

Hoser

The PBS runs started this AM so you should be able to start pickups now. I'm not sure I know what icon you are referring to.

forgot to bid 09-20-2011 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1056962)
Diversifying your income stream is just smart for your family.

I'm going to start an "authentic" Italian restaurant that also serves high end seafood. I'll put it in a strip mall, preferably one that is dieing so I can save on rent, and then I'll sink a lot of money and debt into it. I'll show up to work every day around 2 and work til 10. A full 8 hours.

We'll be rich.

Or the next restaurant on Restaurant Impossible, the show that helps idiots who started or inherited a restaurant and had no idea what they were doing. Most of the time they serve "authentic" Italian.

It always cracks me up that these people start a business they've never worked in. They have a passion for cooking! So? I mean would anyone here start an airline knowing everything you know?

Yes.

I would. If it was a pay for departure regional airline- what a gold mine! :mad:

But after what I've seen, any SB I'd get into would be one I really love because frankly I've seen too many people work their tails off to lose just about everything.


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1056962)
Diversifying your income stream is just smart for your family. Just because guys can make money and sustain a life outside of this airline, does not mean that they will give up on the airline or the pilots that they work with. Big difference.

I cannot tell you how many pilots have not had a back up and end up with a career ending medical issue. They and their family are in deep trouble.

To respond to your assertion that I an "giving up" on this career, the answer is no. Heck I may run for rep again next fall. What I am doing is what any smart and prudent person would do, diversify. I had it when I lived in DFW, sold it because I wanted to be a hands on owner, and now am in a position to be a SB Owner once again.

There are many here that are looking to leave DAL, that is a fact. That fact and reality has happened recently, and it has not gone unnoticed by the leadership.

Don't worry, I will still be pain in everyone's side here at DAL. I rarely do anything without giving my all.

One of the good things about being a SB owner is you can "lose" a lot of money. When I saw "lose" I mean once C2012 gives us FedEx rates and you're rich you can have your accountant show you all the ways you can "lose" money with your SB. :D

I'm not talking about you per se ACL, but I flew with an ER Captain and she was adamant about having one or more SBs. Mostly the kind that don't require employees and are mostly cash.

forgot to bid 09-20-2011 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1056980)
The issue with filling a 170 seat airplane vs several RJs, is another complex one. Sure, mgmt would prefer to fill a 170 seat airplane, but not if we're only flying that route once a day with it. Business travelers need many flights a day, so mgmt actually prefers (and something called the S-curve supports that) several departures spread around the day.

I still don't understand why we don't do point-to-point? The MD-88 would be great for it.



Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1056980)
A secondary issue is that Delta has bought all these RJs and they are on long term contracts. We can't get rid of them immediately, even if they aren't profitable, so they have to be used for something. We are cutting back, but we still have a lot.

That always make you wonder how much we're being cut to facilitate bad contracts with Delta Con?

I mean when you wonder how good is Delta Con for Delta Air Lines, and therein us, you have to ask yourself how many CRJ-200s would this airline have if they were in house right now?


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