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Old 09-20-2011 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Going to swa would be an incredibly stupid decision. They are where united was in 2001.... Add to that zero retirements!
Couldn't disagree more.

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Old 09-20-2011 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird
It's almost impossible to go through what this pilot group has gone through and not change. I used to fly sick to help the company. Now if I need ANY medication to fly, I call in sick, period. If we're going to be late, I really don't care (is the beacon on?).

ALPA has one shot at this, if they mess it up, they very well could be on the way out. Delta will probably resort to AMR type tactics for C12, and if they do it will cost them, the dog can only be beaten for so long.........
You are right, ALPA has one big chance, and that starts with the opener. If they shoot low, hoping to get an "adequate" contract in their minds (after managing our expectations anyway), I would think the DPA would get the vote and then win. I still give all of my captains advice on trying to pressure ALPA by sending in that DPA card, and just reminding them that if they screw it up, all of those fancy perks and extra money going to the RJ operators will be gone. We paid over $35 million last year in dues to ALPA. We better get something out of that.
Old 09-20-2011 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Couldn't disagree more.

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Add the young airtran group, and fairly small numbers leaving Southwest over the next 10 years, and that spells stagnation.
Old 09-20-2011 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
+1! But as a Devil's advocate, I must say WE ARE COMPLETELY AT FAULT for giving it all up.

It is much easier to give up benefits than regain them. I know, its human nature to be timid and frightened when a "trained" manager/leader tells you that the sky is falling. Thus giving up the world.

At this point, "the sky is falling" again. As you can see, right in time for our regain or contract negotiations:

1) the flying is slowly dissipating or transferring to our partners
2) we are getting less aircraft
3) we are laying off other groups
4) we are not hiring pilots while it is apparent we should for the future, unless we are shrinking (RA likes less pilots)
5) we are reducing our footprint-->reduce to profitability

Folks, this is no coincidence. Our expectations are being formed and managed. They cant control the cost of OIL but they think they can offset their costs by lowering our pay because they know we, as pilots, can be weak and greedy.

Its time to make a stand. We help Delta be the best while Delta takes care of us.

TEN
100% correct my friend.

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Old 09-20-2011 | 01:36 PM
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This holding a line thing is pretty cool. I managed to swap all of my trips for commutable ones. Now I just need to learn how to pick up something. Senior bidders keep taking all the trips I want to pick up. I'm learning all about the PCS functions I've been ignoring for the last 3 years.
Old 09-20-2011 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Do you like wearing white gloves when flying?

Right Ahead Left...Clear!

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George
It would depend on where I would be living, how much they pay me to live there and push their metal, and would I be the King? I wear the hat the company wants me to, and I don;t find that at all offensive either.

Hat haters response in 3...2...1...
Old 09-20-2011 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BoyFromSouth
Not to change the subject, but has anyone stayed at the hotel in AUA lately. I think it's the ******** but I could be wrong. I have a trip there next month with 24 hrs to kill. Does anyone know if they offer a daily all inclusive package for the crews to purchase?

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Yes they do.. I think it is $25 for the all inclusive. You can drink that much in the first couple of hours... and then there's dinner.. breakfast.. and lunch on the way out. Yeah.. it's a no brainer. And you better enjoy it while it lasts, because when the new rest rules are engaged, it will be a turn.
Old 09-20-2011 | 02:25 PM
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I had looked at the photo in question earlier and wondered how low or aft that seat mud be such that you don't see the pilot but I guess it actually may be telling more of the story...

FOX News - Top Stories - Cockpit Pic Fuels MysteryOf Deadly Reno Air Crash - Page 1 of 2
Old 09-20-2011 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Add the young airtran group, and fairly small numbers leaving Southwest over the next 10 years, and that spells stagnation.
A stagnating FO at Southwest is averaging 145,000 per year and averaging 18 days off per month. Average! That's only about 40,000 per year less than I make and I'm at the top of the heap here at DAL.

The sad truth is that most DAL pilots won't ever get to the top wrung of the ladder, and as such, will make less money than a stagnating Southwest FO.

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Old 09-20-2011 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
A stagnating FO at Southwest is averaging 145,000 per year and averaging 18 days off per month. Average! That's only about 40,000 per year less than I make and I'm at the top of the heap here at DAL.

The sad truth is that most DAL pilots won't ever get to the top wrung of the ladder, and as such, will make less money than a stagnating Southwest FO.

Carl
That's so true and its indeed sad.
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