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acl65pilot 09-21-2011 12:58 PM

FtB;
Once again, the block hrs per pilot tell part of the tale, the other part is ASM's per pilot. If you actually break out the international augmentation that is required and add those block hrs to the Form 41 reports you would quickly realize that we are as if not more efficient that SWA. If you look at ASM or RPM's per pilot, we are off the chart.

Argue correctly. :D

tomgoodman 09-21-2011 01:03 PM

Could be "something else"
 

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1055728)
Also, he didn't GLOC instantly because he radioed a mayday after he went vertical. Since GLOC produces nearly instantaneous unconsciousness, it seems to point to something else.

Years ago, an airliner mysteriously pitched up sharply after takeoff, went out of control, and crashed. The cause was eventually traced to the pilot's seat, which had broken loose and slid full aft. :confused:

forgot to bid 09-21-2011 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1057866)
FtB;
Once again, the block hrs per pilot tell part of the tale, the other part is ASM's per pilot. If you actually break out the international augmentation that is required and add those block hrs to the Form 41 reports you would quickly realize that we are as if not more efficient that SWA. If you look at ASM or RPM's per pilot, we are off the chart.

Argue correctly. :D

I doubt SWA has pilots flying 200-300 hours per year like we do on our domestic categories.

acl65pilot 09-21-2011 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1057871)
I doubt SWA has pilots flying 200-300 hours per year like we do on our domestic categories.


They do, I know at least one that almost never works.

DAL 88 Driver 09-21-2011 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1057862)
DAL88 drives that home all the time in that he wants W2 parody.

Just to be clear... I want W2 parity. Although knowing you, FTB... you could probably come up with a pretty creative parody on our W2's! :D

DAL 88 Driver 09-21-2011 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1057866)
FtB;
Once again, the block hrs per pilot tell part of the tale, the other part is ASM's per pilot. If you actually break out the international augmentation that is required and add those block hrs to the Form 41 reports you would quickly realize that we are as if not more efficient that SWA. If you look at ASM or RPM's per pilot, we are off the chart.

Argue correctly. :D

Wow! Twice in one day that I agree with ACL!!! :eek:

Better talk to your reps though, ACL. I know at least one that is putting out the "you want SWA pay, then the company will want SWA productivity and we'll furlough a whole bunch of pilots." Maybe your reps need to start arguing correctly! :p

Scoop 09-21-2011 01:37 PM

LAX Section 6 Roadshow
 
Guys,

Just attended the Section 6 roadshow at SNA for the LAX base. Nothing earth shattering but some of the points made were:

The MEC wants everyone, and they do mean everyone to fill out the forthcoming contract survey - this will drive our negotiations.

A few of the CAPTs discussed how some of the LAX FO’s were complaining about financial distress. Not everyone was familiar with this, but it was good to see it brought up. LAX is a high cost area and some guys are struggling.

Scope came up a few times. Not just RJs, but codeshare (ALK) JV, and also DCI. The ALPA guys were stressing the 50 seaters were going away and said we owned everything over 76 seats.
They don’t seem to think small jet scope is an issue - they feel that we as a pilot group have learned, we had a gun to our head in BK etc.

The SCOPE sale for pay raise issue was said to basically be an urban legend. Overall positive feeling on Scope, but I just don’t see the same “angst” over DCI from the ALPA guys compared to how a lot of our FOs feel.

A looming threat is the large number of wide-body orders that the Middle East airlines have and the political pressure that they may invoke to pry open the cabotage can of worms. Most guys think this is the big future threat.

The Alaska code share came up and was a little bit contentious but it is in the contract and the ALPA guys insist that big-picture it benefits us the DAL Pilots. As a LAX based pilot lets just say I am a little skeptical about this but will give them the benefit of the doubt - then again do I really have a choice?

CPO sick calls were discussed - know your obligations, read the ALPA provided bulletin and comply with it. The company has the right to call employees. 



Like I said nothing earth shattering, and as an early 2000 hire I felt pretty good about most things.

Scoop

Bucking Bar 09-21-2011 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1057871)
I doubt SWA has pilots flying 200-300 hours per year like we do on our domestic categories.

Who does that? On reserve I'm usually at 68 to 73 hours.

Bucking Bar 09-21-2011 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 1057869)
Years ago, an airliner mysteriously pitched up sharply after takeoff, went out of control, and crashed. The cause was eventually traced to the pilot's seat, which had broken loose and slid full aft. :confused:

The failure of the trim tab is pretty uniformly accepted by the on scene officials and witnesses. Further, the P51 seat moves up and down. The pedals move fore and aft.

I've never been in a single seat airplane where the seat moved fore and aft.

buzzpat 09-21-2011 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1057900)
Guys,

Just attended the Section 6 roadshow at SNA for the LAX base. Nothing earth shattering but some of the points made were:

The MEC wants everyone, and they do me everyone to fill out the forthcoming contract survey - this will drive our negotiations.

A few of the CAPTs discussed how some of the LAX FO’s were complaining about financial distress. Not everyone was familiar with this, but it was good to see it brought up. LAX is a high cost area and some guys are struggling.

Scope came up a few times. Not just RJs, but codeshare (ALK) JV, and also DCI. The ALPA guys were stressing the 50 seaters were going away and said we owned everything over 76 seats.
They don’t seem to think small jet scope is an issue - they feel that we as a pilot group have learned, we had a gun to our head in BK etc.

The SCOPE sale for pay raise issue was said to basically be an urban legend. Overall positive feeling on Scope, but I just don’t see the same “angst” over DCI from the ALPA guys compared to how a lot of our FOs feel.

A looming threat is the large number of wide-body orders that the Middle East airlines have and the political pressure that they may invoke to pry open the cabotage can of worms. Most guys think this is the big future threat.

The Alaska code share came up and was a little bit contentious but it is in the contract and the ALPA guys insist that big-picture it benefits us the DAL Pilots. As a LAX based pilot lets just say I am a little skeptical about this but will give them the benefit of the doubt - then again do I really have a choice?

CPO sick calls were discussed - know your obligations, read the ALPA provided bulletin and comply with it. The company has the right to call employees. 



Like I said nothing earth shattering, and as an early 2000 hire I felt pretty good about most things.

Scoop

Good review Scoop. Thanks for attending! I'm cautiously optimistic.


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