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09-23-2011 | 02:13 PM
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On the survey, question #13, under Scope, can someone explain to me what "Alter Ego" is? Thanks. Trying like hell to get this right.
09-23-2011 | 02:25 PM
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09-23-2011 | 02:29 PM
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09-23-2011 | 02:39 PM
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Well that does seem to be the conventional wisdom on our MEC. But I don't agree. I think a strong case can be made for SWA W2 compensation at a minimum and C2K+COLA at a maximum. A sound, professional case needs to be made for this, not "demands." But it sure is a lot easier to come up with excuses why something difficult can't be done than it is to buckle down and determine to achieve it.
Sadly, Rather B Fishin's line of thinking is exactly what I think we're going to ultimately see from this MEC. They just can't come out and say it in so many words right now because they would have a revolt on their hands and would likely be replaced with DPA. If they wait until we're actually into Section 6, they know it will be infinitely more difficult to replace them.
Sadly, Rather B Fishin's line of thinking is exactly what I think we're going to ultimately see from this MEC. They just can't come out and say it in so many words right now because they would have a revolt on their hands and would likely be replaced with DPA. If they wait until we're actually into Section 6, they know it will be infinitely more difficult to replace them.
I think that the MEC will know what the MAJORITY of the pilots want based on a high completion rate on the survey.
A sound case will be made with the NC and the professional negotiators.
"Buckle down and achieve it".....Like UCAL, AA, LCC? Like SWA who has never set a bar for pilot compensation and has had a part in bringing the legacy packages DOWN over the last 25 years?
News flash.....It doesn't matter what you or I WANT!!!!
It only matters what the Company will say yes to, and if they won't say yes, then whatever it takes to convince a majority of the voting members of the NMB think is a legitimate offer and that we should be allowed decline a Proffer of Aribtration and start a 30-day cooling off period to press our case.
Nothing else will affect an outcome to our liking.
Changing the bargaining agent will not improve our ability to do the above. ALPA has a better track record of successfully arguing in front of the NMB than any other representational agency available.
Again, why would any REP benefit from not maximizing the value of a new PWA? They have to work and feed their families' under the agreement like anyone else!!!!!!
09-23-2011 | 03:09 PM
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CW from who? Not my reps, not my reps from my previous base.
I think that the MEC will know what the MAJORITY of the pilots want based on a high completion rate on the survey.
A sound case will be made with the NC and the professional negotiators.
"Buckle down and achieve it".....Like UCAL, AA, LCC? Like SWA who has never set a bar for pilot compensation and has had a part in bringing the legacy packages DOWN over the last 25 years?
News flash.....It doesn't matter what you or I WANT!!!!
It only matters what the Company will say yes to, and if they won't say yes, then whatever it takes to convince a majority of the voting members of the NMB think is a legitimate offer and that we should be allowed decline a Proffer of Aribtration and start a 30-day cooling off period to press our case.
Nothing else will affect an outcome to our liking.
Changing the bargaining agent will not improve our ability to do the above. ALPA has a better track record of successfully arguing in front of the NMB than any other representational agency available.
Again, why would any REP benefit from not maximizing the value of a new PWA? They have to work and feed their families' under the agreement like anyone else!!!!!!
I think that the MEC will know what the MAJORITY of the pilots want based on a high completion rate on the survey.
A sound case will be made with the NC and the professional negotiators.
"Buckle down and achieve it".....Like UCAL, AA, LCC? Like SWA who has never set a bar for pilot compensation and has had a part in bringing the legacy packages DOWN over the last 25 years?
News flash.....It doesn't matter what you or I WANT!!!!
It only matters what the Company will say yes to, and if they won't say yes, then whatever it takes to convince a majority of the voting members of the NMB think is a legitimate offer and that we should be allowed decline a Proffer of Aribtration and start a 30-day cooling off period to press our case.
Nothing else will affect an outcome to our liking.
Changing the bargaining agent will not improve our ability to do the above. ALPA has a better track record of successfully arguing in front of the NMB than any other representational agency available.
Again, why would any REP benefit from not maximizing the value of a new PWA? They have to work and feed their families' under the agreement like anyone else!!!!!!
09-23-2011 | 03:35 PM
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I also just flew my first trip with a FNW guy. Great guy, he even bought the beer!
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09-23-2011 | 03:37 PM
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I'll personally stand outside headquarters in a "GUMBY" outfit handing out copies of the paper survey if it gets all 12,000 to take it. (Whatdya say FTB?
)Some real strong buzzwords (no pun intended towards your handle
) are being used on this forum, to include "UNITY". Let's really see if this group has it. This is the first of many tests to come.Hoping for the best,
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09-23-2011 | 03:49 PM
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09-23-2011 | 03:58 PM
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09-23-2011 | 04:09 PM
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[QUOTE=scambo1;1059038]
Orvil, the mkt has a case of the fridays. I suspect it will close where it opened. I am eyeballin ERX as a buy and hold realizing it may go lower. Thats my fuel hedging plan. Thinkin 30.72-30.92 prior to the close.
I'm not posting this for anyone to take personal action or as a recommendation. DYODD.
If I buy, I'll let cha know so everyone can see how badly i screwed up.
Too late Scambo1, I've already got ERX stock with calls at a much higher cost. But, it's a position that I planned to dollar cost average into. Great premiums.
Could go as low as 23. Depends on your strategy as to how you play it. It's not likely to go out of business.
Orvil, the mkt has a case of the fridays. I suspect it will close where it opened. I am eyeballin ERX as a buy and hold realizing it may go lower. Thats my fuel hedging plan. Thinkin 30.72-30.92 prior to the close.
I'm not posting this for anyone to take personal action or as a recommendation. DYODD.
If I buy, I'll let cha know so everyone can see how badly i screwed up.
Could go as low as 23. Depends on your strategy as to how you play it. It's not likely to go out of business.
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