Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-05-2011 | 03:05 PM
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10-05-2011 | 03:06 PM
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In other news:
Alaska is hiring.
SWA will Hire 100+.
Hawaiian is hiring.
AA recalling.
Delta???
TEN
Alaska is hiring.
SWA will Hire 100+.
Hawaiian is hiring.
AA recalling.
Delta???
TEN
10-05-2011 | 03:52 PM
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10-05-2011 | 03:55 PM
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And if that were the case the facts would bear it out as soon as the NDA info became public. The fact that NDA agreements continue must be either a testament to the veracity of the info given, and ALPA continuously vets it's worth, or we have had a long track record of incredibly naive, gullable people at the MEC, both fNWA and DAL 
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10-05-2011 | 04:00 PM
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10-05-2011 | 04:01 PM
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10-05-2011 | 04:09 PM
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Not sure we will see hiring based on the 2012 flight plan. We are down 9 jets with the DC9 retirements not being matched by equivalent MD90 flying.
The retirement of NWA's DC9's will create at least 100 extra pilots, even after the MD88/90 training slots.
FTDT and Slot Swap are expected by November, perhaps that will help.
The retirement of NWA's DC9's will create at least 100 extra pilots, even after the MD88/90 training slots.
FTDT and Slot Swap are expected by November, perhaps that will help.
10-05-2011 | 04:16 PM
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10-05-2011 | 04:19 PM
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FtB:
Given this is not the First Rodeo for any aviator, I will submit that a FO on the lowest paying jet in yr three plus of longevity should be able to afford a typical middle class house; 250K, two newer cars with payments of about 400 each, schooling for their children, a college fund, able to put the max per year in their 401K and be able to do everything that a typical manager mid-upper level at a normal corporation should be able to do. That equates to 140-155K a year. It also should go up significantly from there.
Most pilots DAL has hired in the last five years have been doing the military for 10+ years and or the civilian world for 7-15 years. The bulk of pilots hired would be mid to upper level managers on a different career track at a min.
I continue to purport that to attract the best you have to pay em like you respect em.
The idea of a pilots in his mid 40's sitting reserve on the 7ER or 330 making 6K a month with kids going to college is preposterous. That pilot has been doing this job for 20+ years and should be paid in kind. Same goes for the 7ERA that sits reserve and makes 155K gross a year and is in his mid to late 50's.
Given this is not the First Rodeo for any aviator, I will submit that a FO on the lowest paying jet in yr three plus of longevity should be able to afford a typical middle class house; 250K, two newer cars with payments of about 400 each, schooling for their children, a college fund, able to put the max per year in their 401K and be able to do everything that a typical manager mid-upper level at a normal corporation should be able to do. That equates to 140-155K a year. It also should go up significantly from there.
Most pilots DAL has hired in the last five years have been doing the military for 10+ years and or the civilian world for 7-15 years. The bulk of pilots hired would be mid to upper level managers on a different career track at a min.
I continue to purport that to attract the best you have to pay em like you respect em.
The idea of a pilots in his mid 40's sitting reserve on the 7ER or 330 making 6K a month with kids going to college is preposterous. That pilot has been doing this job for 20+ years and should be paid in kind. Same goes for the 7ERA that sits reserve and makes 155K gross a year and is in his mid to late 50's.
10-05-2011 | 04:19 PM
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Just quoting you but not for any other reason but to add to the discussion.
One thing that creeps in to my mind with the talk of AMR and a possible CH11 is the:
RA and Co will want labor peace with us. I would not be overly surprised to see a extension offer with pay and a few contract fixes thrown our way. Just put you mind around the possibility, and what you would expect out of it. No need to comment, but just think about that.
I have no info, it is just as though that I figured I would share. I do not want it to catch anyone off guard.
Also make sure everyone you are flying with fills out the survey.!!!!
One thing that creeps in to my mind with the talk of AMR and a possible CH11 is the:
RA and Co will want labor peace with us. I would not be overly surprised to see a extension offer with pay and a few contract fixes thrown our way. Just put you mind around the possibility, and what you would expect out of it. No need to comment, but just think about that.
I have no info, it is just as though that I figured I would share. I do not want it to catch anyone off guard.
Also make sure everyone you are flying with fills out the survey.!!!!
I hate north guys....PAY UP!!!!
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