Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-12-2011 | 01:26 PM
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10-12-2011 | 01:51 PM
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Okay, stupid question?
The latest "mandatory bulletin" in DBMS:
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SUBJECT: AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT EFOB 11-21 SOURCE: DIRECTOR, LINE OPERATIONS EFFECTIVE-DATE: 11OCT11 EXPIRATION DATE: 11DEC11
BULLETIN TEXT: BEGINNING 13 OCT, ACS WILL DELIVER THE AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT (ADR) TO ALL AIRCRAFT AS PART OF THE PAPERWORK DELIVERED BEFORE MAIN DOOR CLOSURE. THE ADR REPLACES THE NON-ESSENTIAL FURNISHING DISCREPANCY REPORT (NDR) ON BLUE AIRCRAFT. PILOTS ON RED AIRCRAFT WILL RECEIVE THE ADR IN ADDITION TO THE LOG ITEM DEFERRAL SUMMARY (LIDS), WHICH IS FOUND IN THE AIRCRAFT LOGBOOK. EVENTUALLY, THE ADR WILL REPLACE THE LIDS ON RED AC. . IN A FUTURE ENHANCEMENT -EXPECTED TO OCCUR IN NOV- THE ADR WILL BE DELIVERED IN THE PRE-FLIGHT PAPERWORK TO ENHANCE CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF INOP OR DEFERRED ITEMS. . THERE IS NO NEW PROCEDURE OR POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADR. IT IS PROVIDED FOR CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF MAINTENANCE DEFERRED ITEMS ON THE AIRCRAFT. PLEASE DO NOT DELAY DEPARTURE IN ORDER TO CROSS-CHECK THE ADR.
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I haven't been flying very much. In fact, it's been a month since I've even been to the airport. But I thought I had pretty much kept up with everything. What the heck is an "ADR"? And why is this the first I've heard about it?! Also, on the "red" aircraft... I know what LIDS is but thought it was found in the back of the aircraft log book and did NOT know it was delivered as part of "paperwork delivered before main door closure." Did I miss something?
The latest "mandatory bulletin" in DBMS:
__________________________________________
SUBJECT: AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT EFOB 11-21 SOURCE: DIRECTOR, LINE OPERATIONS EFFECTIVE-DATE: 11OCT11 EXPIRATION DATE: 11DEC11
BULLETIN TEXT: BEGINNING 13 OCT, ACS WILL DELIVER THE AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT (ADR) TO ALL AIRCRAFT AS PART OF THE PAPERWORK DELIVERED BEFORE MAIN DOOR CLOSURE. THE ADR REPLACES THE NON-ESSENTIAL FURNISHING DISCREPANCY REPORT (NDR) ON BLUE AIRCRAFT. PILOTS ON RED AIRCRAFT WILL RECEIVE THE ADR IN ADDITION TO THE LOG ITEM DEFERRAL SUMMARY (LIDS), WHICH IS FOUND IN THE AIRCRAFT LOGBOOK. EVENTUALLY, THE ADR WILL REPLACE THE LIDS ON RED AC. . IN A FUTURE ENHANCEMENT -EXPECTED TO OCCUR IN NOV- THE ADR WILL BE DELIVERED IN THE PRE-FLIGHT PAPERWORK TO ENHANCE CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF INOP OR DEFERRED ITEMS. . THERE IS NO NEW PROCEDURE OR POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADR. IT IS PROVIDED FOR CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF MAINTENANCE DEFERRED ITEMS ON THE AIRCRAFT. PLEASE DO NOT DELAY DEPARTURE IN ORDER TO CROSS-CHECK THE ADR.
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I haven't been flying very much. In fact, it's been a month since I've even been to the airport. But I thought I had pretty much kept up with everything. What the heck is an "ADR"? And why is this the first I've heard about it?! Also, on the "red" aircraft... I know what LIDS is but thought it was found in the back of the aircraft log book and did NOT know it was delivered as part of "paperwork delivered before main door closure." Did I miss something?
10-12-2011 | 02:03 PM
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Johnson,
The Alaska code-share is touted by DALPA as being beneficial to the DAL Pilot group as a whole. While I am very skeptical about this, even if it were true, it is seriously and disproportionately harming the LAX 737 Pilots.
The LAX 737 category basically lost almost all of our North-South West coast flying. The end result is our bid package is atrocious. 35% of our rotations are 4 day trips with red-eyes that pay between 17 and 21 hours.
LAX has 45 of these uber-crappy rotations.
SLC has 11.
CVG has 4.
The LAX category is much smaller than both of those bases.
So basically DALPA is saying: The code-share with Alaska is good. What they are not saying is that the pain is all being felt in one category - LAX 737.
Is this how a union is supposed to act?
How would guys in any other category feel is DALPA allowed management to carve out exceptions to our code share/DCI agreement that was basically all shouldered by one category? This is exactly what is happening to the LAX 737 guys.
So yes, George has a good reason to concentrate on the Alaska code share.
Scoop
The Alaska code-share is touted by DALPA as being beneficial to the DAL Pilot group as a whole. While I am very skeptical about this, even if it were true, it is seriously and disproportionately harming the LAX 737 Pilots.
The LAX 737 category basically lost almost all of our North-South West coast flying. The end result is our bid package is atrocious. 35% of our rotations are 4 day trips with red-eyes that pay between 17 and 21 hours.
LAX has 45 of these uber-crappy rotations.
SLC has 11.
CVG has 4.
The LAX category is much smaller than both of those bases.
So basically DALPA is saying: The code-share with Alaska is good. What they are not saying is that the pain is all being felt in one category - LAX 737.
Is this how a union is supposed to act?
How would guys in any other category feel is DALPA allowed management to carve out exceptions to our code share/DCI agreement that was basically all shouldered by one category? This is exactly what is happening to the LAX 737 guys.
So yes, George has a good reason to concentrate on the Alaska code share.
Scoop
10-12-2011 | 03:30 PM
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From: 777B
Any better ones than these? Add away:
Detroit - Detoilet
Minneapolis - Minnie-Hopeless //// Minne- noplace
LaGuardia - LaGarbage
Newark - Manuark /// Sewark
O'Hare - O'Scare
Midway - Skidway
Memphis - Memphysema
Atlanta - Mylanta /// Hotlanta
Gatwick - Catlick
Los Angeles - Smell-A
Dallas/Fort Worth - Dallas/Fort Worthless /// Dee Doub (D-W)
Dallas/Fort Worth - D F'in W
Tampa - Dumpa
New Orleans - The Big Sleazy
Nashville - Trash Fill /// Bananna (airport identifier is BNA)
Pittsburgh - The Pits /// ****sburgh
Las Vegas - Lost Wages
Saskatoon - Sassy Tuna
Fort Walton Beach - Wally World
Charleston - Charley west (west virginia) Charley South (South Carolina)
Augusta - Disgusta
Chattanooga - Chat a vegas
Detroit - Detoilet
Minneapolis - Minnie-Hopeless //// Minne- noplace
LaGuardia - LaGarbage
Newark - Manuark /// Sewark
O'Hare - O'Scare
Midway - Skidway
Memphis - Memphysema
Atlanta - Mylanta /// Hotlanta
Gatwick - Catlick
Los Angeles - Smell-A
Dallas/Fort Worth - Dallas/Fort Worthless /// Dee Doub (D-W)
Dallas/Fort Worth - D F'in W
Tampa - Dumpa
New Orleans - The Big Sleazy
Nashville - Trash Fill /// Bananna (airport identifier is BNA)
Pittsburgh - The Pits /// ****sburgh
Las Vegas - Lost Wages
Saskatoon - Sassy Tuna
Fort Walton Beach - Wally World
Charleston - Charley west (west virginia) Charley South (South Carolina)
Augusta - Disgusta
Chattanooga - Chat a vegas
Greenbow, AL - Greenbow AL-A-BAM-A
10-12-2011 | 03:35 PM
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Okay, stupid question?
The latest "mandatory bulletin" in DBMS:
__________________________________________
SUBJECT: AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT EFOB 11-21 SOURCE: DIRECTOR, LINE OPERATIONS EFFECTIVE-DATE: 11OCT11 EXPIRATION DATE: 11DEC11
BULLETIN TEXT: BEGINNING 13 OCT, ACS WILL DELIVER THE AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT (ADR) TO ALL AIRCRAFT AS PART OF THE PAPERWORK DELIVERED BEFORE MAIN DOOR CLOSURE. THE ADR REPLACES THE NON-ESSENTIAL FURNISHING DISCREPANCY REPORT (NDR) ON BLUE AIRCRAFT. PILOTS ON RED AIRCRAFT WILL RECEIVE THE ADR IN ADDITION TO THE LOG ITEM DEFERRAL SUMMARY (LIDS), WHICH IS FOUND IN THE AIRCRAFT LOGBOOK. EVENTUALLY, THE ADR WILL REPLACE THE LIDS ON RED AC. . IN A FUTURE ENHANCEMENT -EXPECTED TO OCCUR IN NOV- THE ADR WILL BE DELIVERED IN THE PRE-FLIGHT PAPERWORK TO ENHANCE CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF INOP OR DEFERRED ITEMS. . THERE IS NO NEW PROCEDURE OR POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADR. IT IS PROVIDED FOR CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF MAINTENANCE DEFERRED ITEMS ON THE AIRCRAFT. PLEASE DO NOT DELAY DEPARTURE IN ORDER TO CROSS-CHECK THE ADR.
_______________________________________
I haven't been flying very much. In fact, it's been a month since I've even been to the airport. But I thought I had pretty much kept up with everything. What the heck is an "ADR"? And why is this the first I've heard about it?! Also, on the "red" aircraft... I know what LIDS is but thought it was found in the back of the aircraft log book and did NOT know it was delivered as part of "paperwork delivered before main door closure." Did I miss something?
The latest "mandatory bulletin" in DBMS:
__________________________________________
SUBJECT: AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT EFOB 11-21 SOURCE: DIRECTOR, LINE OPERATIONS EFFECTIVE-DATE: 11OCT11 EXPIRATION DATE: 11DEC11
BULLETIN TEXT: BEGINNING 13 OCT, ACS WILL DELIVER THE AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT (ADR) TO ALL AIRCRAFT AS PART OF THE PAPERWORK DELIVERED BEFORE MAIN DOOR CLOSURE. THE ADR REPLACES THE NON-ESSENTIAL FURNISHING DISCREPANCY REPORT (NDR) ON BLUE AIRCRAFT. PILOTS ON RED AIRCRAFT WILL RECEIVE THE ADR IN ADDITION TO THE LOG ITEM DEFERRAL SUMMARY (LIDS), WHICH IS FOUND IN THE AIRCRAFT LOGBOOK. EVENTUALLY, THE ADR WILL REPLACE THE LIDS ON RED AC. . IN A FUTURE ENHANCEMENT -EXPECTED TO OCCUR IN NOV- THE ADR WILL BE DELIVERED IN THE PRE-FLIGHT PAPERWORK TO ENHANCE CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF INOP OR DEFERRED ITEMS. . THERE IS NO NEW PROCEDURE OR POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADR. IT IS PROVIDED FOR CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF MAINTENANCE DEFERRED ITEMS ON THE AIRCRAFT. PLEASE DO NOT DELAY DEPARTURE IN ORDER TO CROSS-CHECK THE ADR.
_______________________________________
I haven't been flying very much. In fact, it's been a month since I've even been to the airport. But I thought I had pretty much kept up with everything. What the heck is an "ADR"? And why is this the first I've heard about it?! Also, on the "red" aircraft... I know what LIDS is but thought it was found in the back of the aircraft log book and did NOT know it was delivered as part of "paperwork delivered before main door closure." Did I miss something?
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10-12-2011 | 04:11 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
On LA Weather (movie trivia):
Guy: Harry, should you be pretaping the weather report?
Weathercaster: The weekends are very tough for me to come in. You can imagine my busy weekend schedule. Besides, this is L.A. What's going to change?
10-12-2011 | 04:36 PM
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Okay, stupid question?
The latest "mandatory bulletin" in DBMS:
__________________________________________
SUBJECT: AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT EFOB 11-21 SOURCE: DIRECTOR, LINE OPERATIONS EFFECTIVE-DATE: 11OCT11 EXPIRATION DATE: 11DEC11
BULLETIN TEXT: BEGINNING 13 OCT, ACS WILL DELIVER THE AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT (ADR) TO ALL AIRCRAFT AS PART OF THE PAPERWORK DELIVERED BEFORE MAIN DOOR CLOSURE. THE ADR REPLACES THE NON-ESSENTIAL FURNISHING DISCREPANCY REPORT (NDR) ON BLUE AIRCRAFT. PILOTS ON RED AIRCRAFT WILL RECEIVE THE ADR IN ADDITION TO THE LOG ITEM DEFERRAL SUMMARY (LIDS), WHICH IS FOUND IN THE AIRCRAFT LOGBOOK. EVENTUALLY, THE ADR WILL REPLACE THE LIDS ON RED AC. . IN A FUTURE ENHANCEMENT -EXPECTED TO OCCUR IN NOV- THE ADR WILL BE DELIVERED IN THE PRE-FLIGHT PAPERWORK TO ENHANCE CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF INOP OR DEFERRED ITEMS. . THERE IS NO NEW PROCEDURE OR POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADR. IT IS PROVIDED FOR CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF MAINTENANCE DEFERRED ITEMS ON THE AIRCRAFT. PLEASE DO NOT DELAY DEPARTURE IN ORDER TO CROSS-CHECK THE ADR.
_______________________________________
I haven't been flying very much. In fact, it's been a month since I've even been to the airport. But I thought I had pretty much kept up with everything. What the heck is an "ADR"? And why is this the first I've heard about it?! Also, on the "red" aircraft... I know what LIDS is but thought it was found in the back of the aircraft log book and did NOT know it was delivered as part of "paperwork delivered before main door closure." Did I miss something?
The latest "mandatory bulletin" in DBMS:
__________________________________________
SUBJECT: AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT EFOB 11-21 SOURCE: DIRECTOR, LINE OPERATIONS EFFECTIVE-DATE: 11OCT11 EXPIRATION DATE: 11DEC11
BULLETIN TEXT: BEGINNING 13 OCT, ACS WILL DELIVER THE AIRCRAFT DISCREPANCY REPORT (ADR) TO ALL AIRCRAFT AS PART OF THE PAPERWORK DELIVERED BEFORE MAIN DOOR CLOSURE. THE ADR REPLACES THE NON-ESSENTIAL FURNISHING DISCREPANCY REPORT (NDR) ON BLUE AIRCRAFT. PILOTS ON RED AIRCRAFT WILL RECEIVE THE ADR IN ADDITION TO THE LOG ITEM DEFERRAL SUMMARY (LIDS), WHICH IS FOUND IN THE AIRCRAFT LOGBOOK. EVENTUALLY, THE ADR WILL REPLACE THE LIDS ON RED AC. . IN A FUTURE ENHANCEMENT -EXPECTED TO OCCUR IN NOV- THE ADR WILL BE DELIVERED IN THE PRE-FLIGHT PAPERWORK TO ENHANCE CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF INOP OR DEFERRED ITEMS. . THERE IS NO NEW PROCEDURE OR POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADR. IT IS PROVIDED FOR CAPTAIN AWARENESS OF MAINTENANCE DEFERRED ITEMS ON THE AIRCRAFT. PLEASE DO NOT DELAY DEPARTURE IN ORDER TO CROSS-CHECK THE ADR.
_______________________________________
I haven't been flying very much. In fact, it's been a month since I've even been to the airport. But I thought I had pretty much kept up with everything. What the heck is an "ADR"? And why is this the first I've heard about it?! Also, on the "red" aircraft... I know what LIDS is but thought it was found in the back of the aircraft log book and did NOT know it was delivered as part of "paperwork delivered before main door closure." Did I miss something?
10-12-2011 | 05:10 PM
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Straight out of the SWAPA handbook.
SWAPA considers our Duty and Trip Rigs to be the strongest in the industry, as they protect pilot productivity and efficiency.
• Minimum Daily guarantee is 6.5 TFP; Ex., a 3-day trip pays a minimum of 19.5 TFP .
• Duty hour rig is .74 TFP per hour, minimum.
• Reserve guarantee is 90 TFP per month; but actual months pay average around 105 TFP .
• Reserves are allowed to pick-up extra flying.
• Holidays pay 150 percent.
• Open Time trips pay up to 150 percent.
Please take note here....THREE day trip in example....not four.
SWAPA considers our Duty and Trip Rigs to be the strongest in the industry, as they protect pilot productivity and efficiency.
• Minimum Daily guarantee is 6.5 TFP; Ex., a 3-day trip pays a minimum of 19.5 TFP .
• Duty hour rig is .74 TFP per hour, minimum.
• Reserve guarantee is 90 TFP per month; but actual months pay average around 105 TFP .
• Reserves are allowed to pick-up extra flying.
• Holidays pay 150 percent.
• Open Time trips pay up to 150 percent.
Please take note here....THREE day trip in example....not four.
Carl
10-12-2011 | 05:11 PM
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10-12-2011 | 05:15 PM
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From: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift
Was there a press release, or was this discovered by looking at parts left on the runway?
On LA Weather (movie trivia):
Guy: Harry, should you be pretaping the weather report?
Weathercaster: The weekends are very tough for me to come in. You can imagine my busy weekend schedule. Besides, this is L.A. What's going to change?
On LA Weather (movie trivia):
Guy: Harry, should you be pretaping the weather report?
Weathercaster: The weekends are very tough for me to come in. You can imagine my busy weekend schedule. Besides, this is L.A. What's going to change?
I guess RR wants in on the GTF, maybe they'll hang it off the 767 and call it the 767-9, it would fly circles around the 787...
Cheers
George
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