Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1069919)

From the council 54 update:

Scope: A historical overview of industry growth and the rise of regional carriers. Economic market forces have made the 50-seat jet destined for phase out. Do pilots want to spend negotiating capitol on a market segment that is economically dead? The current PWA has a total 255 plane limit on 70–76-seat RJs based on a fleet of 767 mainline aircraft. An area of management interest could be the 76–120 seat market. Scope is not all about RJs. It also pertains to who flies the larger aircraft in our joint ventures (JV) and code shares. These are the areas of increasing threat to the careers of Delta pilots. Do you care if little or no attention is paid in these areas of the contract? ALL of us will suffer more stagnation if we do not receive our fair share of the JVs that are in fact virtual mergers if not for U.S. laws on airline ownership. We have been vocal and vigilant about the threats to our jobs that cabotage would bring. Should Delta pilots continue to review and provide input to JV agreements? Pilots have the power and control to make these areas priorities in the contract survey. What’s good for Delta the corporation might not be good for Delta pilots. What do you think?




Yes I care!!! I am sure we all care. Do you really need to ask that question? Is there some reason JV's and small aircraft Scope are mutually exclusive???? It always bothers me when guys bring up a different issue when discussing Scope and say "But Hey, this is important too."

OK - Now here is my wise (or Wise-A$$) thought of the week.

If your boat has two leaks, fixing one is usually not a valid solution.

Finally, my advice to all who put a lot of effort and hard work into our contract - How about you pay attention to the whole thing!


Scoop

PS - This is not meant to be a slam against 54 - Hell, at least they mention Scope, but is meant to point out what surely must be an ALPA talking point.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1070246)

College football emergency:

Clemson cant win unless my wife watches. ESPN 360 isnt working. What other free online sports channels work?

Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1070032)

hey guys,

I got a reserve line in Nov, and the only thing I bid for was the 10th off. I didn't get it, but 3 guys junior to me did. Is this worth a call to anyone in particular ?

Thanks in advance.....:confused:

Originally Posted by UncleSam (Post 1070290)

Had the same thing happen. Go to Pilot Resources page on Delta Net and select PBS Bid Inquiry form in left column just below Bid Awards. Fill out the form and submit it.

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1069919)

From the council 54 update:

Scope: The current PWA has a total 255 plane limit on 70–76-seat RJs based on a fleet of 767 mainline aircraft.

Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 1070351)

Not really true.

Just to be clear, it's 255 RJs with 51-76 seats and it doesn't matter how big the mainline fleet gets, that number is fixed.

The number of 71-76 seat RJs ("76" seat)is currently 153 and can go up based on the mainline fleet exceeding 767 airframes, but only so long as the aggregate number of 51-76 seat jets doesn't exceed 255.

Why is that important, because most "70" seat RJs are configured with 65 seats and more importantly, the number of "70" + "76" seat RJs is already scheduled to reach 255. Therefore, if the number of "76" seat RJs ever is allowed to exceed 153 (mainline above 767 aircraft) the company has to park a "70" seat jet for each "76" seat jet it adds.

It's important that we understand this subtle difference. 255 is a hard number. Let management trade 70 seaters for 76 seaters if they like, but let's not go in thinking that 255 is subject to change based on the size of the mainline fleet, it's not. Unless of course they are flown by a mainline pilots, in which case they can have as many as they like.:)