Originally Posted by Imapilot2

Will our profit checks be bigger or smaller this time

Originally Posted by LeineLodge

They are Golden only in the sense that Training Planning cannot schedule you for CQ on any of those days. They have nothing to do with RES golden days. CQ Golden days apply equally to REG and RES pilots as all CQ Training is pre-awarded and loaded onto your schedule before you bid for a month in PBS. As such, PBS has no idea (and doesn't care) if you will be a REG or RES pilot because the monthly schedule bids haven't been run yet. Clear as mud?

You bid them in iCrew and I think the montly bidding timeline/deadline just changed a little bit with LOA 29. The full explanation is on a PBS notepad under the crew resources tab on Deltanet, but I think you have to have them in by the 21st* with your EARLY/MAY/MUST bids entered into PBS by the 31st at 1800 ET*.

Rough Timeline of Bidding Dates (From the Crew Resources Page)

December CQ Bidding

December CQ Golden Day bids must be submitted prior to October 21st
December CQ Bid Window Opens: October 25th 1800E
December CQ Bid Window Closes:October 31st 1800E
December CQ Bid Results are Posted NLT 0800 November 5th

You can see the CQ Results for December are posted (pre-awarded to your PBS calendar) by 0800 on the 5th which not coincidentally is when the PBS bid window for December bidding opens. Again, you won't know if you're a RES or REG pilot until sometime around the 15th or 16th (but No Later Than 17th) of November. You then will bid your RESERVE GOLDEN DAYS by the 19th* of November for the December schedule. Again, clear as mud???




*check it out yourself, don't want to give bad info. I'm gonna look before mid-November as my CQ comes up in JAN as an early month.

Originally Posted by chuck416

"...waste 5 minutes of MY time..." What a pathetic waste of a GOOD seniority number going to such as one of these. That is the real waste. If guys like these can not see the value of unity, we don't stand a chance. He is so self-centered ("MY time") that he'll never 'get it'. This next contract is about US. Not his precious 5 minutes. Unfortunately, the group of involved pilots have their futures tied to this slug. When you find one in your cockpit, make certain that you give him an ear full guilt trip that will, hopefully, get him involved.
.....rant over.....

Originally Posted by boog123

Half, but at least the taxes aren't a lot

Originally Posted by FrankCobretti

I do not care about a specific percentage increase in hourly pay. I care about a 50% increase in overall compensation package.

Originally Posted by DeadHead

Not to get too into what I was pushing for, but here's where I sat.

*I think 5% over 5 years with a minimum of 5 encouraging phone calls, meetings, or commendations each quarter from an upper level executive/management type who smells of a combination of mahogany and expensive black label scotch. (I call this the 5-5-5 plan)

*Scope relaxation up to 100 seats in exchange for allowing pilots to sell commercial advertising space on their flight kits, luggage, and uniforms, in addition to 1 company-issued, monogrammed, blue Snuggie.

*1% point below LUV rates under the terms and conditions that it is formally/officially put in writing that DAL pilots are superior to SWA pilots in every other way as pilots and men.

*Vacation time to remain at 3 hours under the conditions that each pilot is permitted 5-10 minutes of loitering "free time" in the front lobby of a Skyteam Lounge of their choosing each calendar year.

*Sick time allocation and usage relaxation to allow pilots to trade banked sick time for on board beverages and snacks at a rate of 4 Twix or 2 Pringles for 1 hour of sick pay.


I know it's not what everyone might want, but keep in mind that the times have changed, C2K might as well be CULater because this is probably the best deal we are going to get.

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

Thanks, LuvJockey. I knew there was no way the average SWA pilot salary could be so low when the average F/O makes over $140K and the average Captain makes over $230K. The guy that heads up that MIT Airline Data Project sailingfun likes to quote, is hardly impartial. Here's a very interesting tidbit from his bio:
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"Prior to accepting his research position at MIT, Swelbar spent 25 years in the consulting world with a focus on airline labor cost restructuring..."
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"If you torture the data long enough, it will confess." - Ronald Coase

Originally Posted by DeadHead

Not to get too into what I was pushing for, but here's where I sat.

*I think 5% over 5 years with a minimum of 5 encouraging phone calls, meetings, or commendations each quarter from an upper level executive/management type who smells of a combination of mahogany and expensive black label scotch. (I call this the 5-5-5 plan)

*Scope relaxation up to 100 seats in exchange for allowing pilots to sell commercial advertising space on their flight kits, luggage, and uniforms, in addition to 1 company-issued, monogrammed, blue Snuggie.

*1% point below LUV rates under the terms and conditions that it is formally/officially put in writing that DAL pilots are superior to SWA pilots in every other way as pilots and men.

*Vacation time to remain at 3 hours under the conditions that each pilot is permitted 5-10 minutes of loitering "free time" in the front lobby of a Skyteam Lounge of their choosing each calendar year.

*Sick time allocation and usage relaxation to allow pilots to trade banked sick time for on board beverages and snacks at a rate of 4 Twix or 2 Pringles for 1 hour of sick pay.


I know it's not what everyone might want, but keep in mind that the times have changed, C2K might as well be CULater because this is probably the best deal we are going to get.