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Old 11-05-2011, 03:05 PM
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Let's figure out who SWAPA uses, because THEY KNOW HOW TO PAY THEIR PILOTS, unlike ALPA who thinks we can't achieve that. "It's just.......not.....possible. We're NOT Southwest....." That was a quote from EVERY LEC member.
SWAPA pays the pilots over there? Hmmmmmmm now THAT explains why Gary Icahn rammed that down Air Tran's throats....
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Isn't March 2012 just 4 months from now?
Hmmmm you're right. How is the strategy coming for our opener? Was the survey useful? Probably took a couple of hours to read mine Since I was limited to 750 characters, I used text speak for my comments.. actually managed to get over 2000 words into that space. I will be happy to come to the MEC and translate for ya. hehehehehehehe


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Old 11-05-2011, 03:20 PM
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Does anyone here use the PPO option A?

Wifers and I are going to start trying to have a wee one (scary, I know), and wondering how this would be. I've got the HRA Gold now and have been pretty disappointed.


Our insurance options are total bullcrap, if you ask me...
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Old 11-05-2011, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
I would figure there is some sort of a minimum retainer that the NBA pays for DL to keep the aircraft outfitted and available. They are canceling games about 3 to 4 weeks out so the flights may very well be scheduled as to ensure availability.
There are also plenty of NHL charters. I just looked at the bid packets and there are a lot of YVR to YYC type flights.
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Old 11-05-2011, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
SWAPA pays the pilots over there? Hmmmmmmm now THAT explains why Gary Icahn rammed that down Air Tran's throats....
SWAPA, an independent union, actually fought for their own pilots, and didn't have to use part of the $38 million a year in dues to fund smaller, RJ companies. AMAZING! How about using MY DUES MONEY FOR ME, and NOT FOR A COMAIR GUY?
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Old 11-05-2011, 04:24 PM
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I'm saying this game won't be close. I'm going to say LSU, but I don't think it's going to be close either way. Conventional wisdom is often wrong and there has been two weeks of it.

Oh and to make this relevant... I got in an argument today about DPA vs DALPA with someone at the airport. I told them that until DALPA allows us to vote for the MEC Chairman and gets out from under ALPA National I can't support them. The girl at Starbucks said buy something or leave.

I showed her.
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Old 11-05-2011, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Does anyone here use the PPO option A?

Wifers and I are going to start trying to have a wee one (scary, I know), and wondering how this would be. I've got the HRA Gold now and have been pretty disappointed.


Our insurance options are total bullcrap, if you ask me...
Agree. I'm on the Plan N, and I get brutalized by out-of-network every year. It got so bad, I have supplemental medical now that covers deductibles and out of pocket.

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Old 11-05-2011, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Let's figure out who SWAPA uses, because THEY KNOW HOW TO PAY THEIR PILOTS, unlike ALPA who thinks we can't achieve that. "It's just.......not.....possible. We're NOT Southwest....." That was a quote from EVERY LEC member.
I have talked to both ATL and LAX LEC members and FO reps.... I have never heard any one of these guys say anything remote to that effect. C2K plus 50% that is what gives them heartburn. All in fact thought SWA plus was reasonable. I am not sure where this negative ALPA rep dogma comes from. I dont want any group blowing BS smoke but also dont want any group going forward to be a lap dog either when contract negotiation begins.
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Old 11-05-2011, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Last year Delta made $952 million in bag fees, brought in over $1 billion in profits, but also paid down $2 billion in debt last year alone. Bag fees helped pay down debt most likely. It was a fee that never helped us before, and now it seem to be the norm. That is good.
The reason everyone keeps hyping on bag fees is because it did allow DAL to make a profit (in a lousy economy). As for whether DAL can "afford" to pay its pilots let's just do some simple math. We get half of that profit as a pay raise - $500 Million - that equates to a pay raise of $40,000 for every pilot. While this is more than 40% for the average FO and less than 40% for the average CA it does show that that DAL can afford a significant investment in its pilots without breaking the company. Also, as mentioned above $1 Billion dollar net profit and $2 Billion of free cash flow to pay down principal on our debt means DAL actually had $3 Billion of profit not $1 Billion. DAL can afford to give us significant raises for the contribution the pilots have made to a quick, smooth merger and a return to profitability (both companies were in the red before the merger). That doesn't even count the Billions in synergy the company has realized from the merger. It is time for DAL to put its money where its mouth is - we are always getting props from DAL about the great job we do - time to start paying us (with SWAPA, UPS, and FEDEX to shoot for) the company can no longer cry about pilot costs making CASM too high. Don't tell me we can't get at SWA+ (I don't require a big +).
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Old 11-05-2011, 05:18 PM
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I'm saying this game won't be close. I'm going to say LSU, but I don't think it's going to be close either way. Conventional wisdom is often wrong and there has been two weeks of it.

Oh and to make this relevant... I got in an argument today about DPA vs DALPA with someone at the airport. I told them that until DALPA allows us to vote for the MEC Chairman and gets out from under ALPA National I can't support them. The girl at Starbucks said buy something or leave.

I showed her.

Tennessee lost to both Bama and LSU by 31 points. I predict a tie.
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