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Old 10-30-2011 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DLpilot
Are you sure about not having to check your schedule during the 24hr rest? Just trying to get my own clarification too.

This is from the When Scheduling Calls document...
The last non-fly day check is not required on a day in which the pilot:
a. Is on vacation.
b. Performs, or is scheduled to perform, flying for the company.
c. Participates in training, including travel days.
d. Is removed from his scheduled rotation for company
convenience.
e. Is on company business.
f. Performs an SLI duty period, including a fl ex day.
Yes I'm sure. (I think)
During an assigned 24 hr rest period you have no obligation to answer the phone or check your schedule in any way. It is different from a "last non-fly day".

Here's a tricky detail just to further confuse things -- They can call you and if you answer then that is not an interruption of your rest. The key to legal "rest" is the fact you had no obligation to answer. So be careful. If you answer your phone they can give you an assignment. (they still have to allow you the 24 hours rest in 7 days, that's federal law, but they could give you a trip that signs in right after it ends)

Again though, you do not have to answer and also -- them leaving a voice-mail or a message with your spouse does NOT count as contact either.

Once you begin that 24 hours you have no obligation until it ends.

A couple more details -
1) all this only applies to domestic.
2) the 7 days are calendar days but the 24 hours isn't. Its any consecutive 24 hours during those 7 calendar days.
Old 10-30-2011 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
80ktsclamp, the family man:

I'm guessing 80 is on the green bench, but is he on the left or the right?
Old 10-30-2011 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I'm guessing 80 is on the green bench, but is he on the left or the right?
You know, I figured the left but now that you mentioned it...
Old 10-30-2011 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
You know, I figured the left but now that you mentioned it...
Dear 80,

Why are you smiling?

Old 10-30-2011 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I may be alone on this but I sit senior reserve and I am not interested in a seniority based reserve system.
Old-timers used to describe the reserve system of 50 years ago: When a trip came up, it was offered to the senior reserve pilot, and he could turn it down! It was then offered to the next-most-senior reserve pilot, and so on until somebody took it or the bottom guy was stuck with it. Some very senior pilots bid reserve and only flew when they felt like it or were about to go non-current. Such a deal!
Old 10-30-2011 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Old-timers used to describe the reserve system of 50 years ago: When a trip came up, it was offered to the senior reserve pilot, and he could turn it down! It was then offered to the next-most-senior reserve pilot, and so on until somebody took it or the bottom guy was stuck with it. Some very senior pilots bid reserve and only flew when they felt like it or were about to go non-current. Such a deal!
Is that the system that American has?
Old 10-30-2011 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I'm guessing 80 is on the green bench, but is he on the left or the right?
Getting ready to fly..cracking my ass up. Thanks New. I'll be a better pilot for having seen this.
Old 10-30-2011 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Getting ready to fly..cracking my ass up. Thanks New. I'll be a better pilot for having seen this.
I can only hope to one day be 1/2 as funny as 80 and ftb.
Old 10-30-2011 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Is that the system that American has?
Almost. American pilots can pass in seniority order, but with flight time leveling restrictions. Based on how many hours they have flown they are put into different groupings in seniority order. This acts as a leveling mechanism - I believe they can only pass within their groupings. This would be similar to DAL allowing us to pass within our days of availability groupings. They also have something like our short call - I believe it is called a RAP.

The one thing to me that stands out between Americans and DALs reserve system is that there seems to be a lot less randomness to trips being assigned at AMR. Just like at DAL you can always get called out, but at AMR you can usually see the logic and mostly see it coming.

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Old 10-30-2011 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid


But a RAW score system is fair and predictable imo.
Drinking a little early this evening aren't you?
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