Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-14-2012 | 10:52 AM
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Another Delta pilot in denial. He still thinks Delta pays close to what Southwest does. I don't understand our pilot group. Instead of fixing our substandard pay and work rules, we encourage our fellow pilots to quit and work somewhere else. We're in denial. It must be the double-breasted jacket or hat that makes us feel superior no matter how much less money we make.
02-14-2012 | 10:59 AM
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02-14-2012 | 11:21 AM
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Same or worse for me. When I tell the guys I'm flying with that I'll be over 18 years here before I can be a captain, they look at me like I have a horn growing out of my head, or say I'm being too picky about my first captain seat. I try not to dwell on it or be bitter about it, but I'm my 14th year, and I still have a 5 digit number. Most of the guys I fly with have been captains since about the 7 or 8 year point.
02-14-2012 | 11:23 AM
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Ok... let me break this down for you. A first year Emirates pilot makes close to what a Surgeon makes in UAE... certainly more than average! An Emirates captain easily makes more than a surgeon in UAE. In most of the Far East asian countries, pilots still make several times more than a medical doctor. You want to accept it or not, American pilots (you and me) are the new cheap labor in the global aviation market. Denial is not a river.
In a town where almost everybody is a Sheik or Day Laborer, I guess Emirate pilots do fit in to the average slot.
02-14-2012 | 11:25 AM
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Same or worse for me. When I tell the guys I'm flying with that I'll be over 18 years here before I can be a captain, they look at me like I have a horn growing out of my head, or say I'm being too picky about my first captain seat. I try not to dwell on it or be bitter about it, but I'm my 14th year, and I still have a 5 digit number. Most of the guys I fly with have been captains since about the 7 or 8 year point.
02-14-2012 | 11:29 AM
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You're wasting your breathe T. (Or computer typing skills.) Nobody at SWA will ever admit to the fact they needed the resources of Air Tran to grow internationally, and spread their already increasing costs around the network.
If anyone in the Kool-Aid club would ever admit it, they'd then hopefully feel a little embarrassment, or at least feel the need to apologize to the Air Tran guys for how they "bent em over" in the SLI.
GJ
If anyone in the Kool-Aid club would ever admit it, they'd then hopefully feel a little embarrassment, or at least feel the need to apologize to the Air Tran guys for how they "bent em over" in the SLI.
GJ
02-14-2012 | 11:38 AM
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02-14-2012 | 11:44 AM
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11.8B as of last qtr. Down from 13.2 a year earlier. I can't swear to it, but I believe that we are way ahead of schedule. They are on a schedule, but I think they are throwing as much as they can when they can at it. I don't know when they anticipate going below 10, but I'll wager it will happen this year sometime.. 1st qtr of '14 at the latest. Just my opinion though...
02-14-2012 | 11:47 AM
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Another Delta pilot in denial. He still thinks Delta pays close to what Southwest does. I don't understand our pilot group. Instead of fixing our substandard pay and work rules, we encourage our fellow pilots to quit and work somewhere else. We're in denial. It must be the double-breasted jacket or hat that makes us feel superior no matter how much less money we make.
02-14-2012 | 11:49 AM
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You're wasting your breathe T. (Or computer typing skills.) Nobody at SWA will ever admit to the fact they needed the resources of Air Tran to grow internationally, and spread their already increasing costs around the network.
If anyone in the Kool-Aid club would ever admit it, they'd then hopefully feel a little embarrassment, or at least feel the need to apologize to the Air Tran guys for how they "bent em over" in the SLI.
GJ
If anyone in the Kool-Aid club would ever admit it, they'd then hopefully feel a little embarrassment, or at least feel the need to apologize to the Air Tran guys for how they "bent em over" in the SLI.
GJ
Egggggsactly!
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