Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-14-2012 | 07:27 AM
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At least two from my new hire class (2010) have already left and several more are actively interviewing elsewhere.
There is an incredible pay disparity between what we are paid and what our brothers at SWA and FedEx are paid. It's been interesting to watch so many on APC be unwilling to accept that.
There is an incredible pay disparity between what we are paid and what our brothers at SWA and FedEx are paid. It's been interesting to watch so many on APC be unwilling to accept that.
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02-14-2012 | 07:27 AM
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I am not quite sure about that. Of all the guys I know that left, only one even ponders if he should have stayed at DAL. The others don't even look back.
DAL is still one of the better airlines to work. We have a pretty good opportunity for some substantial gains and changing employers is like changing lanes in a traffic jam - what looked so promising can turn sour very fast.
All of that said, I think the important point is that people are in fact leaving DAL. This was totally unheard of prior to 911. This is no longer the DAL of old.
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I am not quite sure about that. Of all the guys I know that left, only one even ponders if he should have stayed at DAL. The others don't even look back.
DAL is still one of the better airlines to work. We have a pretty good opportunity for some substantial gains and changing employers is like changing lanes in a traffic jam - what looked so promising can turn sour very fast.
All of that said, I think the important point is that people are in fact leaving DAL. This was totally unheard of prior to 911. This is no longer the DAL of old.
Scoop
On a separate thought, UCal's profit sharing was $265M or 5% of employee's pay, while DAL's was $264M and 4.85%. Remarkably similar.
02-14-2012 | 07:30 AM
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Does anyone know how the buddy passes are prioritized at the gate? If I issue a pass it goes by my hire date, but what if my buddy is sitting at the gate with a buddy pass rider issued from a regional and they had a hire date earlier then my DL hire date? Does the regional buddy pass go ahead of mine?
02-14-2012 | 07:31 AM
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02-14-2012 | 07:33 AM
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02-14-2012 | 07:33 AM
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Even more so when you compare their advancement to our (what is it now, 4 or 5 bids) which have seen junior members displaced. That's what looks most bleak at the moment.
Delta has a very rich history of being an excellent employer. Delta likes to recall those romantic notions about itself. Today I again heard Richard Anderson's recorded message about sitting at the desk of C.E. Woolman. That resonates with long time Delta people, like my family. The reality is that CE Wollman would not approve of Delta's outsourcing. He had pride in doing this job better and believed only Delta employees could do it best.
Delta has a very rich history of being an excellent employer. Delta likes to recall those romantic notions about itself. Today I again heard Richard Anderson's recorded message about sitting at the desk of C.E. Woolman. That resonates with long time Delta people, like my family. The reality is that CE Wollman would not approve of Delta's outsourcing. He had pride in doing this job better and believed only Delta employees could do it best.
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02-14-2012 | 07:39 AM
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02-14-2012 | 07:43 AM
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I am taking what I believe to be the best course of action to right this ship......getting you/DALPA/ALPA the hell out of the pilot representation business. The sooner we vote you off the island the sooner we can quit shooting ourselves in the foot. You can save your breath telling me I need to run for ALPA office and change from within until the FPL records are released.
PS- I know you will tell me 100 reasons why it wasn't possible but the Compass fleet should today be piloted by mainline Delta pilots. Our pinhead pilots representation flushed that one down the toilet leading to even more stagnation at this shrinking outsourced airline.
Jack Bauer would have seen this as a hostage situation and taken out the perpitrators within the first 5 minutes.
PS- I know you will tell me 100 reasons why it wasn't possible but the Compass fleet should today be piloted by mainline Delta pilots. Our pinhead pilots representation flushed that one down the toilet leading to even more stagnation at this shrinking outsourced airline.
Jack Bauer would have seen this as a hostage situation and taken out the perpitrators within the first 5 minutes.
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02-14-2012 | 07:45 AM
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Agreed; that MEC breached its fiduciary duty to the pilots it represented. It was under the heavy influence of "outsourcing is good." Who knows, I think Moak had a handshake deal to facilitate the Compass give away and the 76 seat grievance which allowed more airplanes to arrive just in the nick of time to replace us. These days the ugly business of selling junior members' jobs is done out of sight.
I have much higher level of confidence in our current Reps than their predecessors. It is unfortunate that this MEC must now pay for others' representational malfeasance.
I have much higher level of confidence in our current Reps than their predecessors. It is unfortunate that this MEC must now pay for others' representational malfeasance.
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02-14-2012 | 08:01 AM
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