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Old 02-14-2012 | 06:59 AM
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Does anyone know how the buddy passes are prioritized at the gate? If I issue a pass it goes by my hire date, but what if my buddy is sitting at the gate with a buddy pass rider issued from a regional and they had a hire date earlier then my DL hire date? Does the regional buddy pass go ahead of mine?
Old 02-14-2012 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Me too. We need a nice Fat Raise and about 30 773's to be ordered to cheer us up!
Really? Air France/KLM is ordering 30 773's?

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Old 02-14-2012 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Compass created a labor arbitrage. Management had the bankruptcy hammer to make it happen. That type of arbitrage is what is killing Comair and is about to hurt SKYW/ASA/Expressjet as they lose 12 airplanes to Gojets. It's all in the longevity. In your segment the "younger" pilot groups are winning.
Total BS. Compass created an attempt to bring flying back in house (at NWA) and make Compass pilots NWA seniority list pilots in short order. DALPA scuttled that deal. Why? Who knows, but it's just more continuation of what looks like a strategy that says: "RJ's are good for Delta."

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Old 02-14-2012 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Wow... they gave it almost 2 years before punching out? Best of luck to them. In 2 or 3 years, ax them if they still made the right decision. I'm betting the answer will be.. uh.. no.

And I don't know of anybody that is "accepting" of the pay disparity.

T,

I am not quite sure about that. Of all the guys I know that left, only one even ponders if he should have stayed at DAL. The others don't even look back.

DAL is still one of the better airlines to work. We have a pretty good opportunity for some substantial gains and changing employers is like changing lanes in a traffic jam - what looked so promising can turn sour very fast.

All of that said, I think the important point is that people are in fact leaving DAL. This was totally unheard of prior to 911. This is no longer the DAL of old.

Scoop

PS - Totally agree with your "Anus" of the earth comment. With very few exceptions (Like you need 100K for Vito the loan-shark ASAP ) , life is too short to spend part of it in that region.
Old 02-14-2012 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvJockey
DEN&AUS to Cancun

Southwest Airlines considers international flights from Hobby to Mexico | khou.com Houston

MDW-Cancun

SAT to Mexico City&Cancun

Those are a lot of new WN/FL routes just in the last month. They have nothing to do with Volaris.

Sorry to interrupt, back to stealth mode.
No way man, get back here!

We've got some here postulating that Volaris is SWA management's attempt at reducing costs through outsourcing. And that this Volaris deal to MEX is just the first opening of the door. What are you hearing?

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Old 02-14-2012 | 07:16 AM
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[QUOTE=acl65pilot;1134599]
-7900 a month income w/flight pay:tax free
-3900 housing allowance
-About a 1000 dollar a month education allowance.
-All utilities except internet paid for
-about 2000 a month in profit sharing
-42 days of vacation a year
-Annual leave PS ticket for you and your family anywhere EK flies
-15% in to a retirement fund.

That equates to 14800 a month all tax free.


Tax free only if you are physically on foreign soil for at least 330 days of the year....42 days of vacation, what a deal. One second under the 330 days - no Foreign Earned Income Exclusion.

Foreign Earned Income Exclusion - Physical Presence Test

330 Full Days

Generally, to meet the physical presence test, you must be physically present in a foreign country or countries for at least 330 full days during the 12-month period. You can count days you spent abroad for any reason. You do not have to be in a foreign country only for employment purposes. You can be on vacation time.

You do not meet the physical presence test if illness, family problems, a vacation, or your employer's orders cause you to be present for less than the required amount of time. Also, if you are present in a foreign country in violation of U.S. law, you will not be treated as physically present in a foreign country while you were in violation of the law. Income that you earn from source within such a country for services performed during a period of violation does not qualify as foreign earned income.

However, the minimum time requirement can be waived if you must leave a foreign country because of war, civil unrest, or similar adverse conditions in that country. You must be able to show that you reasonably could have expected to meet the minimum time requirements if not for the adverse conditions, and that you had a tax home in the foreign country and were a bona fide resident of, or physically present in, the foreign country on or before the beginning date of the waiver.

Full Day

A full day is a period of 24 consecutive hours, beginning at midnight. You must spend each of the 330 full days in a foreign country. When you leave the United States to go directly to a foreign country or when you return directly to the United States from a foreign country, the time you spend on or over international waters does not count toward the 330-day total.
Old 02-14-2012 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
OK, you've adequately explained how this code share is different than our DCI contracts, and that it might be saving SWA money. But it doesn't address the time problem associated with getting your own route authority and gates, etc. If SWA is still using this code share and not their own equipment in another year or two, then you'll be right. My bet is that they won't. We'll see.

Carl
I'll agree that only time will tell.
Old 02-14-2012 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Our current scope for small jets is a quantity and size limitation at 76 seats and corresponding aircraft weight.
It is no such thing. The RAH scope violation through a creative interpretation of the language leaves us with no real limitations since DALPA has refused to file a grievance. DALPA's reasoning? Management found a loophole in our Section 1 (that ALPA lawyers negotiated), and if we grieved it...we'd would lose.

Originally Posted by slowplay
It is my view that Delta pilots already own all flying above this sized aircraft (sub 100 seat),
That may be your view, but ALPA lawyers don't agree with you. ALPA lawyers simply say that Delta management have found a loophole in our Section 1 language. Delta pilots don't really own ANY of their flying.

Originally Posted by slowplay
but putting the genie back in the bottle at 76 seats will be very difficult absent further change in the regional space.
It might be difficult, but it takes a bargainng agent who actually wants to do that. It has nothing to do with "further change in the regional space." It has everything to do with a bargaining agent that states it as one of the highest priorities...or even a priority at all. But of course, DALPA is completely SILENT on this subject. Why?

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Old 02-14-2012 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
You can do your own math problem. Do the same over all labor groups. Then look at those "guaranteed profits" that have pushed PCL to restructure either in or out of court, and caused SKYW Inc to start losing money. And remember we're working for a less than 3% margin business all in. btw, that's good news, it means we're profitable.

Maybe the conventional forum wisdom on "guaranteed profits" doesn't stand up to the light of 10-K's...
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
What's your point?
His point is: "Ladies and Gentlemen...calm down. You simply have to understand how managment views this. Try to not be so self-interested and appreciate how hard it is to be management in an industry with 3% margins."

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Old 02-14-2012 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
... THE MEC IGNORED THE RESOLUTIONS OF DELTA PILOTS and divested Compass pilots from our representational structure.

That is our track record when it comes to the amount of effort the Delta MEC will put into recovery of Delta flying.
Exactly correct!

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