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05-14-2012, 06:06 AM
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Anyone know how many short calls in a row you can sit? Can they assign you all six in a row, even if you don't request it? For some reason I recall only two in a row are allowed but I don't know where I got that...
05-14-2012, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Five
Anyone know how many short calls in a row you can sit? Can they assign you all six in a row, even if you don't request it? For some reason I recall only two in a row are allowed but I don't know where I got that...
05-14-2012, 06:24 AM
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Heavy volume on DAL stock today
05-14-2012, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey
Let's not forget that Moak had a chance to recapture some of this 76 seat flying at the LOCAL level during his tenure as the DALPA MEC and was the deciding vote against a staple of the CPZ pilots to the bottom of the list.
05-14-2012, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
We won't shrink by 6000 pilots, and I can guarantee you that if we grow by 6000 it will not be organically.
05-14-2012, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
That was my whole point. I was in denial I guess.
It didn't really sink in until I saw this Negotiator Notepad and then tonight when I logged on and read all the posts from you and especially alfaromeo.
ALPA has accepted that "the world has changed". Its now a world where airline pilots make substantially less money than we used to make. The bankruptcy rates aren't some temporary emergency thing. They are the new baseline. "What we used to make is irrelevant".
I was still clinging to some faint hopes. Not anymore.
We're not getting back to C2K during my career. And probably never. It just saddens me to see "airline pilot" drop so steeply in the hierarchy of respected and highly compensated professions in the world.
It didn't really sink in until I saw this Negotiator Notepad and then tonight when I logged on and read all the posts from you and especially alfaromeo.
ALPA has accepted that "the world has changed". Its now a world where airline pilots make substantially less money than we used to make. The bankruptcy rates aren't some temporary emergency thing. They are the new baseline. "What we used to make is irrelevant".
I was still clinging to some faint hopes. Not anymore.
We're not getting back to C2K during my career. And probably never. It just saddens me to see "airline pilot" drop so steeply in the hierarchy of respected and highly compensated professions in the world.
05-14-2012, 06:47 AM
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Hockey,
Even I am not that pessimistic.
Even I am not that pessimistic.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 05-14-2012 at 07:08 AM.
05-14-2012, 06:48 AM
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,143
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I agree with this. If we do not merge with anyone else, I see us as a 7000 pilot workforce in 10 years. I will be at about number 6000. Pretty good. 15 years with the company to get to 6000 out of 7000 pilots during our period of massive retirements. We will have managed to avoid furloughing anyone during that time while our entire narrowbody fleet smaller than the 737-900 is outsourced. This is all speculation of course.
Relax! From your posts I gather that we're about the same demographic age/seniority-wise. I see the future as well within our control. Wait and see what comes out, if anything - then vote accordingly.
Worst case scenario is that you're still young enough to jump ship if we "sell the farm."
The sky's not falling yet
05-14-2012, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
ALPA has accepted it but I don't see such defeatism at the various CAPA airlines. I'm not sure DPA is the answer but I'm becoming more and more convinced that ALPA has become not only useless but actually counterproductive. Eight years ago, I was among ALPA's biggest cheerleaders. It's taken a lot to turn my view 180 degrees but ALPA has managed it. The sooner they die, the sooner we can work on effective replacements.
DAL: 18%
NWA: 26%
LUV: 7%
CAL: 2%
AMR: 1.5%
UAL: 1.5%
AAA: 0%
So, just who are you referring to?
05-14-2012, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I agree with this. If we do not merge with anyone else, I see us as a 7000 pilot workforce in 10 years. I will be at about number 6000. Pretty good. 15 years with the company to get to 6000 out of 7000 pilots during our period of massive retirements. We will have managed to avoid furloughing anyone during that time while our entire narrowbody fleet smaller than the 737-900 is outsourced. This is all speculation of course.
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