Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-30-2011 | 07:50 AM
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Sorry to dumb things down here, but DAL pilots potentially be used to fly struck work?
I'm just curious here, personally I think struck work is struck work, regardless of union. Does our contract allow, or protect us from refusing, flying that would normally be flown by our codeshare/JV partners when said partners are on strike?
I'm sure there is a technicality in how struck work is defined, but I don't think it would bode well to have the DAL pilot group picking up flying that is considered struck.
I'm just curious here, personally I think struck work is struck work, regardless of union. Does our contract allow, or protect us from refusing, flying that would normally be flown by our codeshare/JV partners when said partners are on strike?
I'm sure there is a technicality in how struck work is defined, but I don't think it would bode well to have the DAL pilot group picking up flying that is considered struck.
10-30-2011 | 07:54 AM
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Even though there's no money in cargo, there's enough money in cargo to fly 727's, DC-8's and −200 whales. But will DL mainline pilots continue to be at the controls of the 4 engine jets that fly in the service of Delta the SkyTeam connection? That's the question here.
10-30-2011 | 07:54 AM
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Qantas is back to work. Probably take a day or two to spin back up.
Australia Regulator Orders End to Qantas Strikes - Bloomberg
Australia Regulator Orders End to Qantas Strikes - Bloomberg
10-30-2011 | 08:19 AM
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Well when DL was effected by the Comair strike, the Comair strike committee and ALPA defined struck work as additional frequency and/or gauge within the Delta system. Competing airlines were encouraged to hub raid CVG (and anywhere else in the DL system) with as much additional capacity as they wanted to, provided it wasn't affiliated with DL.
The point of a strike is to bleed your airline/holding company out to force the issues at hand. Its not to punish the traveling public just for the sake of itself. If one airline can't manage their labor relations, let the pax go to one that does.
And yes, SWA in ATL is, by far, the single biggest and best thing that could have happened to the DL pilot group by another company. Our biggest domestic competitor in our biggest and most crucial hub is about to see its costs absolutely soar, and we were competing VERY well against them before anyway. As negotations near, nothing is better than SWA in ATL to help us make the case to the NMB that SWA plus reasonable premiums in all areas is fair, reasonable and profitable as long as management does their part in running an airline and winning customers (as opposed to flailing around in some MBA fantasy land global outsource frenzy virtual airline portfolio travel agency nonsense).
The point of a strike is to bleed your airline/holding company out to force the issues at hand. Its not to punish the traveling public just for the sake of itself. If one airline can't manage their labor relations, let the pax go to one that does.
And yes, SWA in ATL is, by far, the single biggest and best thing that could have happened to the DL pilot group by another company. Our biggest domestic competitor in our biggest and most crucial hub is about to see its costs absolutely soar, and we were competing VERY well against them before anyway. As negotations near, nothing is better than SWA in ATL to help us make the case to the NMB that SWA plus reasonable premiums in all areas is fair, reasonable and profitable as long as management does their part in running an airline and winning customers (as opposed to flailing around in some MBA fantasy land global outsource frenzy virtual airline portfolio travel agency nonsense).
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10-30-2011 | 08:49 AM
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The Air France cancellations (and our resultant up gauging) were due to a cabin crew strike at Air France. For our purposes, does struck work mean all canceled flights, or just those canceled by a pilot union's job actions?
10-30-2011 | 09:22 AM
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I need a reserve refresher course. I transition from a line to reserve with a 5 day that spills into November. Two reserve days immediately follow my 5 day. Due to no 24 hour layover on the trip I have been assigned a 24 hr rest period starting at release time from the rotation.
When does my long call leash start? At the end of my rest?
Thanks in advance.
When does my long call leash start? At the end of my rest?
Thanks in advance.
10-30-2011 | 09:30 AM
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I need a reserve refresher course. I transition from a line to reserve with a 5 day that spills into November. Two reserve days immediately follow my 5 day. Due to no 24 hour layover on the trip I have been assigned a 24 hr rest period starting at release time from the rotation.
When does my long call leash start? At the end of my rest?
Thanks in advance.
When does my long call leash start? At the end of my rest?
Thanks in advance.
You are pretty much correct. However, since you're a reserve in NOV don't forget the required schedule check after you block in from that trip. They always have that one last shot at reserves at the end of every trip before you are truly "released". They could have cancelled or modified your rest, or assigned you short call or another trip immediately after your rest. etc. etc. Not likely, but possible.
Assuming you check your schedule and they haven't done any of that, then you have no responsibility to answer the phone or check your schedule during the 24 hour rest. You just go on long call at the end of it. The usual 12 hour leash.
10-30-2011 | 09:39 AM
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You are pretty much correct. However, since you're a reserve in NOV don't forget the required schedule check after you block in from that trip. They always have that one last shot at reserves at the end of every trip before you are truly "released". They could have cancelled or modified your rest, or assigned you short call or another trip immediately after your rest. etc. etc. Not likely, but possible.
Assuming you check your schedule and they haven't done any of that, then you have no responsibility to answer the phone or check your schedule during the 24 hour rest. You just go on long call at the end of it. The usual 12 hour leash.
You are pretty much correct. However, since you're a reserve in NOV don't forget the required schedule check after you block in from that trip. They always have that one last shot at reserves at the end of every trip before you are truly "released". They could have cancelled or modified your rest, or assigned you short call or another trip immediately after your rest. etc. etc. Not likely, but possible.
Assuming you check your schedule and they haven't done any of that, then you have no responsibility to answer the phone or check your schedule during the 24 hour rest. You just go on long call at the end of it. The usual 12 hour leash.
10-30-2011 | 09:45 AM
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That rotation might be complete but they can give you another one or short call or rest, etc.
10-30-2011 | 09:54 AM
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Look it up on Flightaware.com. Put in DAL184 in top left box for flight number, and then scroll down and look at the flights each night from JFK to CDG (there is an aircraft change from Portland to JFK, a 73N, and then onto CDG). It says every other night in the last month has been a 767-300. Why would it be a 747-400 tonight ONLY? Maybe they expect more passengers tomorrow. If it were a charter, it would have 4 digits like 9939. Pretty smart, eh?
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