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Old 11-05-2011 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BigGuns
This is part of the Atlantic capacity reduction. AF 330 reduced to a DL 767. Seat reduction. Back to an AF 330 in Spring 2012.
Isn't 3/2012 the spring of 2012? Or at least darn near.... are you saying it's DAL for two months then back to AF?
Old 11-05-2011 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolf
You are a piece of work,TS. I posted the correct info to help you guys. The fact is, we are currently well paid, but that was not always so. Kinda like you used to be well paid and now not so much. If it makes you feel any better, I hope U/CAL, AMR and whoever else gets good contracts as well. Go beat your dog or something, you seem tense.
+1... Just because a SWA guy shows up here and posts some acccurate info of the sort a hundred guys have asked for recently about SWA specifics, doesn't mean he is personally responsible to be the Defender Of SWA History and take any old rude beating that gets thrown out. Really T, usually I enjoy your posts, you must not have had your coffee yet...
Old 11-05-2011 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Not to mention that the frequent travelers zip through the airport nary a fee. It's the expedia shoppers or once a year fliers that get hit with the bag fees.


So, $952 MILLION wasn't a big deal? (in one year) Nah, no biggie..... a fee that never really helped us before. Nah. Have you noticed that SWA still hasn't stopped the bag fees over at Airtran yet? Why is that? Maybe because it brought in $200 million for Airtran last year. Southwest jumped on the no bag fee bandwagon, and now I bet they wish they had not.

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Old 11-05-2011 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BigGuns
This is part of the Atlantic capacity reduction. AF 330 reduced to a DL 767. Seat reduction. Back to an AF 330 in Spring 2012.
And in March Delta will take over SEA-CDG with a 767, from an AF A330.
Old 11-05-2011 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
In a related story... I was returning home to MCO the other day and I saw 2 Virgin A330s at the terminal in MCO... for the last 15 years it has been 747s. FWIW
They are using those on the MAN route which was always thinner, but also on a newer Glasgow route. Put in VIR72 in the upper left box on Flightaware.com and see the latest flight there. There is still at least one Virgin 744 going to LGW per day from MCO, but they have also moved some of them to the Caribbean flying for the Winter.
Old 11-05-2011 | 09:40 AM
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Old 11-05-2011 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
So, $952 MILLION wasn't a big deal? (in one year) Nah, no biggie..... a fee that never really helped us before. Nah. Have you noticed that SWA still hasn't stopped the bag fees over at Airtran yet? Why is that? Maybe because it brought in $200 million for Airtran last year. Southwest jumped on the no bag fee bandwagon, and now I bet they wish they had not.
I think it is the same revenue and yes it has a bad connotation because the traveling public wants something for nothing. So we give them something for next to nothing and if the want extra they will just pay for it. I am sure all airlines would love to get rid of the nickel and dime and just charge what it costs. I agree though it sounds like we are getting something extra but I feel reality is different. SWA does not charge for bags for now (airtran still does and I bet SWA will bite the bullet and assume that little tid bit) but SWA also is not any cheaper than many airlines. Multiple stops, higher fares that one cant compare on the open market without a lot of work. SWA just appears to be cheaper and on the higher road of not charging for bags. But they are not stupid they make money for a reason, by forcing the traveler through their well thought out revenue system. As they get away from their system (al la ATL and angry airtran employees) they may just have to start charging for bags too.
Old 11-05-2011 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
And in March Delta will take over SEA-CDG with a 767, from an AF A330.
That's what I was trying to say. It can't go back to AF in the spring, if DL is getting it in the spring...
Old 11-05-2011 | 09:56 AM
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Anybody think the NBA lockout will effect our 4th qtr profits since we charter most NBA teams?

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Old 11-05-2011 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
So bloviate about the guy with the website,
Yes...better that you bloviate and lie for the MEC while on full flight pay loss slowplay.

Originally Posted by slowplay
no results and checkered legal advice. I'll take results over "tough" rhetoric any day.
Gotta love these MEC administration bureaucrats. They so desperately want to keep their status quo of staying home with their families on full flight pay loss, that they lie about other people. For those who are on the fence about DPA and the current legal representation we've chosen of the Seham law firm, please read just the latest accolade of their legal prowess. Sorry for the large picture:




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