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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1081731)
Just wait, you'll be turned off of ALPA after reading the next contract TA.
It sounds like you have a pretty good knowledge of what the future holds. Any stock tips to share? |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1081759)
This is another example of the latest attempt by a strong ALPA supporter to stifle communication. You never supported DPA CVG767A...never. You've mainly belittled anyone who would even consider the idea of DPA. If I'm wrong on that I'll look forward to you showing a previous post that did otherwise.
So here we have a strong ALPA supporter saying that all this DPA vs ALPA garbage has turned you off to something you've never supported in the first place. There is definitely a new pattern and tactic emerging here. If only ALPA would try the tactic of honest communication and member representation. Carl I've actually supported some of your positions in the past. Even if I haven't fully agreed with them, I considered it a good counterbalance to those who would blindly accept anything that ALPA offers. It was a little like "good cop/bad cop". Lately, however, it's more like "good cop/crazy cop". The bluster never ends, and it's gotten old. Furthermore, I don't recall belittling anyone who supports DPA-- maybe you could show me a post where I did that. (I may have belittled the black helicopter crowd here; that's a little different, IMO). My apologies to all for continuing this on the L&G thread; I'll make any future comments on the DPA thread. |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1081765)
The truth is that a DPA vote won't change the outcome of this Section 6 once the openers are exchanged. Since DALPA has already stated that we will not even see a summary of our opening position, we wont know approximately what it was until we all see the TA. Even if we vote NO on the TA, then immediately vote in the DPA, the best we could ever do would be our opening position...regardless of who the bargaining agent is.
If we don't vote DPA in prior to the exchange of openers in April, our futures will hinge on how strong that opener is...the opener that no member will get to see. After openers are exchanged, DPA will only be able to influence the NEXT contract. Carl Question: Several first officers have told me that they will sign up for DPA if they believe our contract survey to be weak or ALPA's opener with Delta to be too low. Are we going to know what we are asking for in our opening exchange with management or the results of the contract survey? Answer: 8-1-11. The contract survey will be just that, a survey. Every pilot should complete it. We need 100% participation in order for the MEC to move forward with what the pilots want. Don't expect our contract survey or opener to be published until the opener has been exchanged. It is not good negotiating strategy to tell the other party what you intend to open with. |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1081766)
That's fine dude. You should only vote for a new union if it makes sense in your own logical mind...not because of thread hijacks by ALPA or DPA supporters.
Carl Second, I wouldn't ever vote for or against a union based upon a thread hijacks. But some of the logic I read and hear (primarily on the DALPA board) is beyond obtuse. That's what worries me. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1081782)
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1081456)
As someone on the outside during that time period.... ya'll looked ridiculous wearing those leather jackets. Those things look very unprofessional.
I think the hat should be optional in the summer uniform, though. |
LSU vs BAMA
After Nick Saban dies and enters the Pearly Gates, God takes him on a tour. He shows him a little two-bedroom house with a faded Alabama banner hanging from the front porch. "This is your house, coach," God says happily."Most people don't get their own houses up here." Nick looks at the house, then turns around and looks at the one sitting on top of the hill. It's a huge, beautiful two-story mansion with white marble columns and little patios under all the windows. LSU flags line both sides of the sidewalk and a huge LSU banner hangs between the marble columns. "Thanks for the house, God," Nick says. "But let me ask you a question. I get this little two-bedroom house with a faded banner and Miles gets a mansion with LSU banners and LSU flags flying all over the place. Why is that?"
God looks at him seriously for a moment, then says, "Nick, that's not Miles's house. That's mine." |
Originally Posted by ExAF
(Post 1081814)
And the 1940's U-boat Commander Jacket is soooooo much more professional. :p
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