No not really. Just not sharing.

 

[QUOTE=80ktsClamp;1082144]the google-fu is strong with me tonight:



I think it will be out by close-of-business Wednesday.

 

Carl,

Personal foul!! 15 yards for "passive aggressive language" on the forum, without associated underboob. (Baiting the ALPA guys to bring you out.)



Fly safe,

GJ

 

It seems like every one of these bids is a crapshoot. When they flush an entire base into the system it's hard to anticipate what the majority of guys will do.


Sadly, I totally agree, on both points!

 

The DC-9s were on their way out, and NYC 320 was going to need to get staffed from somewhere. So it REALLY comes as no surprise that MEM is closed out with this bid. Is there anybody out there that didn't see that coming?

CVG is most likely not far behind. So since no one else has yet brought it up, let me just remind everyone what we all heard three years ago. "There will be no base closures as a result of this merger." RA and EB. Said multiple times. I was personally in attendance when EB assured us all that he would "personally guarantee" the base. Gee thanks, E. All the while I was dying to ask him just one question - why does Delta need CVG? Where does CVG fit into Delta's strategy? But, unfortunately in the course of his Q and A, he made it abundantly clear that he didn't know where the price of oil (and hence the state of our company) would be 6 months hence. So, the desire to ask my question naturally abated.

Of course, we got the 2 year guarantee (in the form of up to 30k per pilot in realty fees, etc) if they broke that promise within 2 years. So 3 years later, they are safe from that obligation by half. CVG MAY be only waiting for MEM to get worked through the training cycle before they're gone too.

I just want everyone to remember how this effects our QOL as a group. This is going to maybe make some retire, but will also make many more of us commuters. And the seniority in the remaining bases gets squeezed. And the options available to all of us as a pilot group are lessening. Also, we need to remember how this reflects on the integrity of our leaders, as much as want to have faith in them.

All of this needs to be remembered in negotiations. We all need to be compensated for this!

eor (end of rant)

 

Dang! Just can't win with these refs.

Carl

 

party foul

 

"I just want everyone to remember how this effects our QOL as a group. This is going to maybe make some retire, but will also make many more of us commuters. And the seniority in the remaining bases gets squeezed. And the options available to all of us as a pilot group are lessening. Also, we need to remember how this reflects on the integrity of our leaders, as much as want to have faith in them.

All of this needs to be remembered in negotiations. We all need to be compensated for this!"


well said TACO ...let's see if this efficiency that is being created is truly in OUR best interest

 

Wasn't it PG who was making a big deal about pilots who "choose" to commute. I'm thinking that the MEM based guys didn't get to make that "choice".

 

And we'll know that how Bar? Will you and I be able to make that judgment when we sit down and read the transcripts from the "meet and confer" mandatory meetings with the unions of our direct RJ competitors?

Carl