Hmmmmm - Delivery trucks you say.........

Well they actually need the delivery trucks...... at least until they agree on a pay-scale for the Osprey. And do you really think the trucks are outsourced labor??? When was the last time a 727 pulled into your driveway? Now the Caravans on the other hand...........

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Thanks ACL, that makes sense. I just noticed the 90xx B(S) guy is new to the category and finishing up Initial just prior to the rotation.

Appreciate it!

That would depend on your definition of "significantly"

That is such a key, relevant point. Our MEC (all the way from the Lee Moak days through current) has consistently described the gains we got from the merger as "substantial" or "significant." Those gains were not much more than a COLA to our bankruptcy/emergency pay rates. It scares me to death to think what their definition of "substantial" or "significant" might be for C2012! :eek:

Well, my definition, as I described it to DALPA, is SWA pay for MD-88 + and higher for larger equipment types in an ascending scale and scope reclamation. Seems pretty clear to me.

That is exactly what I put!

Yep, they need the delivery trucks because FedEx delivers packages, similar to the fact that Delta needs airplanes because we deliver people by air. All of the FedEx ground trucks where the EX is painted green are independent contractors and not employees of FedEX (the vast majority of delivery trucks).

I responded to Carl because he said:
I don't understand how you can include FDX in that statement because the pilots of FDX have zero impact on the brand as it pertains to the customer. I bet that 99.9% of their customers never even meet a FDX pilot. They do however meet the driver and that driver is most likely outsourced.

Now, it would be cool if a 727 could pull into my driveway for delivery's.

FedEx customers are very much impacted by an operation that runs safely, on time, efficiently and smoothly. Pilots play a very large role in making that happen. When you go out to eat you rarely meet the chef, but you are always impacted by his or her work.

Maybe I'm wrong but the Legacy carriers hub and spoke systems combined with deregulation is the main reason the majors went to outsourcing. In the small feeder markets they couldn't at that time compete with start-up (think cheap money cheap gas) low cost carriers, SW on the other hand was a post deregulation point to point carrier that doesn't interline bags. Not a big incentive to outsource. Not saying it's good or bad just different business models. The economics are changing and I believe that outsourcing (RJ's) is a phase that has come and is in the process of going away (code share is here for awhile)
Regardless of what the keyboard warriors say DL makes more money flying DL pax on DL jets when it makes economic sense but when it doesn't they will continue to find alternate means to gain extra pax/revenue. I know this is a very simplified explanation but DL will fly their airplanes where they make the most money. For the first time since deregulation I think DL has finally figured out how to consistently make money. A profitable company floats all boats and it's time for our share !

Ohhhh, Ya I got it ! C Series 130 seat for ASA, ...because they are Delta Pilots!
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